Search for town locations #poland


Eugene L. Sadick <elsadick@...>
 

Does any one have information about the towns Kalakova and Glushadlo
(phonetic spellings. They should be located near Ostrow Maz and Wskova,
Poland, but I cannot find them on the National Geographic or the Polish
Government tourist maps.

I would be interested in any information regarding location of families
that may have lived there in the 1870's -1890's



Eugene L. Sadick
Silver Spring, MD

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Stanley Diamond
 

In a message dated 11/13/98 1:50:56 PM EST, elsadick@juno.com writes:

Does any one have information about the towns Kalakova and Glushadlo
(phonetic spellings. They should be located near Ostrow Maz and Wskova,
Poland, but I cannot find them on the National Geographic or the Polish
Government tourist maps.

I would be interested in any information regarding location of families
that may have lived there in the 1870's -1890's
Eugene:

Glushadlo is certainly Dlugosiodlo 20 km west of Ostrow Mazowieck
and 20 km northeast of Wyzkow (you referred to it as Wskova).
The towns form a triangle with Dlugosiodlo in the middle.

There are references to Dlugosiodlo in the Ostrow Maz.Yizkor Book
as there was a strong relationship between the families of the towns.
Dlugosiodlo families also had close ties to those of Wyszkow.

Off hand, I would say Kalakova could be Komorowo (6 km NW of
Ostrow Maz.) or perhaps Goworowo (27 km WNW of Ostrow Maz.)
Perhaps someone else with an interest in this area (as I have) may
recognize other possibilities.

Suggestion to all:
To improve the opportunities for more detailed research of the areas
in which your family lived, we recommend the purchase an atlas
with a large scale. An atlas with a 1:300 000 scale is available >from
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There are no surviving 19th century vital records for either town.
Because of my special interest in these towns for my genetic research
project, I have detailed information on the surviving 20th century
registers.

Dlugosiodlo: 1922-1935 deaths and marriages; 1922-1938 births.
Some births registrations are for events that took place many years
before, in some cases as early as 1884! (Note, Miriam Weiner's
Jewish Roots in Poland incorrectly indicates the years 1910-1935)

Goworowo: Birth, Marriage and Death records are available at the
Civil Records Office for the years 1917, 1920, 1922, 1923,
1925-1929, 1931-1936. (Once more, the actual years available
differ >from what is stated in Jewish Roots in Poland.)

Note, in the case of both towns, there was a flurry of birth registrations
between 1934 and 1936 which accounted for more than half of the
total number of births recorded for all years.

Stanley Diamond
Coordinator, Jewish Records Indexing - Poland


Warren Blatt <wblatt@...>
 

<elsadick@juno.com> (Eugene L. Sadick) wrote:

Does any one have information about the towns Kalakova and Glushadlo
(phonetic spellings. They should be located near Ostrow Maz and Wskova,
Poland, but I cannot find them on the National Geographic or the Polish
Government tourist maps.
"Glushadlo" is most likely Dlugosiodlo, located 12 miles WSW of Ostrow
Maz
and 13 miles NE of Wyszkow.

Warren


MILTGOLD@...
 

In a message dated 11/13/98 1:51:13 PM, elsadick@juno.com wrote:

<<Does any one have information about the towns Kalakova and Glushadlo
(phonetic spellings. They should be located near Ostrow Maz and Wskova,
Poland, but I cannot find them on the National Geographic or the Polish
Government tourist maps.
Perhaps it would help to verify their location, via the ShetlSeek link on the
Jewishgen.org web site. I just was amazed (yesterday) to put in a town's
spelling there, as my cousin and other relatives knew it--- and find out its
phonetic equivalent (using the Daitch-Mokotoff soundex code) made it much
closer to the other side of the family, therefore likely as their ancestral
town, and a town with different spelling that I knew all along!

Also, in Washington DC, you have handy to you the Map Division of the Library
of Congress. That excellent division helped Sally Amdur Sack with two other
helpful sources: "Where Once We Walked" and the "Where Once We Walked
Companion," two books published by Avotaynu that focuses on towns, lists exact
coordinates, and cites other books mentioning those referenced towns.

Some of these ideas may be leads, good luck!

Milton Goldsamt
also Silver Spring, MD
miltgold@aol.com


ROBERT WEISS
 

In a message dated 11/14/98 10:11:20 PM, you wrote:
Milton Goldsamt writes in response to a question by Eugene:

Also, in Washington DC, you have handy to you the Map Division of the Library
of Congress. That excellent division helped Sally Amdur Sack with two other
helpful sources: "Where Once We Walked" and the "Where Once We Walked
Companion," two books published by Avotaynu that focuses on towns, lists
exact
coordinates, and cites other books mentioning those referenced towns.
If these two references do not help to locate your ancestral towns, try the
Gazetteer of Eastern Europe microfiches available at most Jewish Genealogical
Societies and available for purchase >from Avotaynu. These fiches have about
ten times the number of towns than the WOWW Companion, and are arranged by
name, DM soundex and coordinates.

Bob Weiss in Palo Alto
RWeissJGS@aol.com


JLowenkron@...
 

I did find that microfiche helped me locate my grandfather's shtetl after I
had almost given up all hope and had asked everyone who might possibly have
had an idea and gotten nowhere...I wish they publicized it more...so many
people post messages here asking for this kind of help and clearly are
frustrated......I wonder if I should just contribute my copy to the nearest
Family History Center...would it violate any copywrite laws? Jane L.


MILTGOLD@...
 

In a message dated 11/16/98 10:24:45 PM, JLowenkron@aol.com wrote:

<<I did find that microfiche helped me locate my grandfather's shtetl after I
had almost given up all hope and had asked everyone who might possibly have
had an idea and gotten nowhere...I wish they publicized it more...so many
people post messages here asking for this kind of help and clearly are
frustrated......I wonder if I should just contribute my copy to the nearest
Family History Center...would it violate any copywrite laws? Jane L.>>

*****

It could: the microfiche is not really public domain, since it's sold by
Avotaynu and as such, may be a copyrighted product. The FHC also has
policies, I believe, on what it will accept as donations. I know books have
been donated. Why not send Gary Mokotoff at http://www.avotaynu.com a brief
note, expressing two ideas: why doesn't Avotaynu market this useful product
more, and do they mind if your FHC had it available for users?

Milton Goldsamt
miltgold@aol.com