Klonomos gever #latvia


Ben Forman <ben.forman@...>
 

Hi

I've reached a dead end (hopefully temporarily) in my ever growing
family tree.
I've been searching the Latvia databases for relatives/reference to
family on my mothers side.
I have quite a comprehensive list of names but can't find concrete
reference to any of them.

I'm told that the individual I'm looking for came >from Dvinsk his name
was:

Klonomos GEVER

His son was

Shlomo Ben KLONOMOS and he married Bessie SILVER. At some point the name
was changed to SILVERMAN. I assume they married around 1870 since their
first child was born in 1872 they then had 10 further children until
1892 (Myer, Leah, Gertrude, Mary, Annie, eva, Dora, Jane, Sam and Isaac)

Harris moved to England where he married and had 9 children of his own
(Isaac, Maurice, Henry, Fanny, Rae, Sarah, Bessie, Myer and Jack)

I would have thought that the Klonomos Gever -> Isaac Silverman
generation (ie before the emmigration to england) would be somewhere oon
the database. Does anyone know any other sources to help this search or
any other direction to look in, or does anyone have any reference in
their own research to these people.

Thanks

Ben

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Judy Brand <judy_bee@...>
 

Hi Ben

I, too, searched the available databases on
JewishGen for my Dvinsk relatives & was unsuccessful.

However, I wrote to the Latvian Archives & they found
a lot of information for me that is not yet available
on the LatviaSIG website or Jewishgen. The address of
the archives & other info is posted on the Latvia SIG
website.

Hope this helps.

Judy Brandspigel

Ben Forman wrote:

I have quite a comprehensive list of names but can't
find concrete reference to any of them.

I'm told that the individual I'm looking for came
from Dvinsk ....snip....


Dinberg Donna <donna.dinberg@...>
 

Hi Ben,

I checked my index of the names in Yudel Flior's book "Dvinsk, the rise and
decline of a town" and have found the following (page number references in
parentheses):

GEVER Motke: killed by a bomb he was carrying after meeting of Jewish
resistance group (p.150)
(--?--) Shmuel: a barber; lost leg in bomb blast (p.150)
(--?--) Itzik: locksmith; arrested and sent to Siberia (p.152)
ZILBERMAN (--?--): fur merchant (p.39)

The last two may not be yours. Motke is probably yours, and Shmuel may be
his brother (this is a guess on my part, based on your list of names). Here
is the passage about the accidental bomb blast, circa 1905, that befell the
Jewish resistance group:

"The organisation was jubilant at the successes it was having. But their
rejoicing came to a sudden end when, through an accident, a catastrophe
overtook them. They were holding a meeting in the circus. Armed sentries
were guarding against a possible attack >from the Black Hundreds. At the end
of the meeting, they were all making for their homes. The roads were
slippery >from the frost and snaw. Motke Gever slipped and fell. The bomb
he was carrying blew up and killed both him and Borochowitz. Six others
were wounded. Shmuel, the barber, remained with one leg for the rest of his
life. Hirshele Borochowitz had worked for my father. He was a refined and
keen-minded student, beloved by everyone. The affection in which he was
held, may be gathered >from the fact that everyone called him Hirshele."

-- Flior, Yudel. Dvinsk : the rise and decline of a town.
Translated >from the Yiddish by Bernard Sachs.
Johannesburg : Dial Press [1956], page 150.

I echo Judy's encouragement to you to contact the Latvian State Historical
Archive. They have produced wonderful information for me also, much of
which was not online. You may have to wait a while for results, and the
service is for a (reasonable) fee. The quality of the information they
provide, if information on your family is held in the Archive, is excellent.

Hope this helps.

Donna Dinberg
Librarian, JGS of Ottawa
Ottawa, Ontario, Canada
donna.dinberg@lac-bac.gc.ca

<Opinions above are my own and are not intended to reflect those of my
employer. Usual disclaimers apply.>

-----Original Message-----
From: Ben Forman [mailto:ben.forman@bbc.co.uk]
Sent: Monday, August 23, 2004 8:40 AM
Subject: [latvia] Klonomos gever
<snip>
I'm told that the individual I'm looking for came >from Dvinsk his name
was: Klonomos GEVER
His son was Shlomo Ben KLONOMOS and he married Bessie SILVER. At some
point the name was changed to SILVERMAN. I assume they
married around 1870 since their first child was born in 1872
they then had 10 further children until 1892 (Myer, Leah,
Gertrude, Mary, Annie, eva, Dora, Jane, Sam and Isaac)
<snip>


Ben Forman <ben.forman@...>
 

That's brilliant thanks so much for the help.
I have emailed Irinwein@latnet.lv whose address I got >from
the Latvia SIG page but haven't heard back >from her. Is it
better to use traditional post to contact the Archive?

Thanks again

Ben

-----Original Message-----
From: Dinberg Donna <donna.dinberg@lac-bac.gc.ca>
Date: Wed, 25 Aug 2004 08:26:59 -0400

I checked my index of the names in Yudel Flior's book "Dvinsk, the rise
and decline of a town" and have found the following (page number
references in parentheses):
...snip...


Dinberg Donna <donna.dinberg@...>
 

Ben,

E-mail works just fine to the Latvia State Historical Archives. You may not
get an immediate reply (if your query is complex, it may take a few months);
but they will reply eventually.

If you do not hear after perhaps three months, you might send an e-mail
asking for acknowledgement of receipt of your request. I did that and
received a short reply that included an initial verification of my research
assumption, although my request was complicated enough that it took a year
in all to complete. The information received was definitely worth waiting
for.

Donna Dinberg
Ottawa, Ontario, Canada
donna.dinberg@lac-bac.gc.ca

-----Original Message-----
From: Ben Forman [mailto:ben.forman@bbc.co.uk]

I have emailed Irinwein@latnet.lv whose address I got >from
the Latvia SIG page but haven't heard back >from her. Is it
better to use traditional post to contact the Archive?


Ben Forman <ben.forman@...>
 

Theyt sent me a brief reply yesterday confirming receipt.

Many thanks for your advice - I'll tell you if I'm successful (fingers
crossed :o)

ben

-----Original Message-----
Subject: RE: Klonomos gever
From: Dinberg Donna <donna.dinberg@lac-bac.gc.ca>
Date: Sat, 28 Aug 2004 19:14:56 -0400

E-mail works just fine to the Latvia State Historical Archives. You may
not get an immediate reply (if your query is complex, it may take a few
months); but they will reply eventually.
...snip...