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alternatives of the name "Chonan" #lithuania


Jordan Konisky <konisky@...>
 

I am tracing a Litvak family member who lived in the Vilna area in in
the mid 1850's. As listed on his daughter's death certificate, his
first name was "Chonan." I have found a record that lists a "Khone"
with the same surname (Ryndzium). Would "Khone" be a reasonable
equivalent to "Chonan"? Any chance that either would be equivalent
to "Solomon"? Any help would be grealty appreciated.

Jordan Konisky
Houston

Searching: VAKS-ZYSKOND, VAKS, RYNDZIUM in Vilna
KONINSKI, BERNSTEIN in Warsaw


sman@...
 

Would "Khone" be a reasonable equivalent to "Chonan"? Any chance >that either would be equivalent to "Solomon"?
I find it interesting that you would lead >from Chonan to Solomon.
I have a relative who was >from Vilnius. According to the records >from the Vilnius Archives he was Josef Chonan Noar.
His famiy immigrated to England when he was a young man. He then came to America while still a young man.
In the city directories of Philadelphia he is known as Joseph Solomon Noar. Later he dropped the Joseph and just used Solomon.

So, I also have a Chonan that ended up using Solomon.

Scott Noar
sman@uscom.com


Prof. G. L. Esterson <jerry@...>
 

On 24 October, Jordan Konisky of Houston wrote as follows:

"I am tracing a Litvak family member who lived in the Vilna area in
the mid 1850's. As listed on his daughter's death certificate, his
first name was "Chonan." I have found a record that lists a "Khone"
with the same surname (Ryndzium). Would "Khone" be a reasonable
equivalent to "Chonan"? Any chance that either would be equivalent
to "Solomon"? Any help would be grealty appreciated."
The Yiddish names Chonan and Khone are both linked together with
several other basic Hebrew names:

Khanan, Elkhanan, Elkhanan Khania, and Yokhanan

Some of the kinuim for these Hebrew names are:

Khonan, Khonon, Khana, Khona, Khone, Khuna, Khune, Khonen, Khonel,
Khoni, Khania,

but not all of these kinuim were used with every one of the four Hebrew
names in Lithuania.

It is quite likely that the Khone Ryndzium you found is indeed the same
person as the Khonan Ryndzium in your family.

To the best of my knowledge, the Hebrew name Shlomo is not related to
these other names in any way other than that a given newborn male might
have been given a Hebrew double name consisting of Elkhanan and Shlomo
based on the corresponding names of two different deceased
ancestors. But that does not provide any link between these two names.

Regards,

Prof. G. L. Esterson, Ra'anana, Israel
jerry@vms.huji.ac.il


Bronstein Family <sygaa@...>
 

Dear Fellow LitvakSIGers,

There is really not any relationship between the two Hebrew names Khone
(listed as an independent name in and of itself in the book Get Mesudar) and Solomon. It also lists Hanan & Khone as independent names. Both, however, may be connected with the name Elhanan -although they are independent and stand alone.

Perhaps someone should do a study on the choice of names that our relatives made. My paternal grandfather's English name, including that used on his citizenship papers was Sam. As a youngster he was known as Srul and for some reason he chose the name Sam (not Samuel). His Hebrew name, of
course was Yisrael. I also have the same phenomenon on my mother's side
where my maternal grandmother's brother Sam actually bore the name Yisrael.

With best wishes >from Jerusalem.

Shalom Bronstein, Jerusalem

Researching - SHULMAN/SHILLMAN - PANEVEZYS; BLOCH - KREKANAVA (LITHUANIA);
the DIMMERMAN, BECK & GELMAN families >from OSTROG & vicinity (VOLHYN);
BRONSTEIN, BROWNSTEIN, RUNSTEIN, ROCHMANN - KISHENEV (MOLDAVA); GOLDSTEIN -
IASI (ROMANIA) - those who came to America all settled in PHILADELPHIA


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Would "Khone" be a reasonable equivalent to "Chonan"? Any chance >that
either would be equivalent to "Solomon"?


Avrohom Krauss <avkrauss@...>
 

"Chonan" is a truncated form of "Elchanan" and not related to "Shlomo" /
"Solomon". (Of course, this does not necessarily mean they are not one in
the same person, as he may have had two names. But without any other
evidence, it would seem you have two different individuals).

Avrohom Krauss
Telz-Stone