Horowitz genealogy back to Spain #rabbinic


E. Randol Schoenberg
 

Can anyone point me to the source for the genealogy of the founder
of the Horowitz dynasty Yeshaya Halevi Horowitz (1465 Horovice -
1517 Prague) back to Pinhas Halevi Benbenisti (b. 1235) in Barcelona?
Everywhere I look you find this tree and the source is "tradition,"
but where is the first mention of this path? http://geni.com/4rM0c
I am not at all familiar with this area, but am curious if there are
any real sources for this legend (about which I am skeptical). On the
other hand, my own path to Horowitz (my 15g-grandfather) is relatively
well-documented. http://geni.com/1S5LN

Randy Schoenberg
Los Angeles, CA


E. Randol Schoenberg
 

I was informed by Reuben Gross that the Horowitz genealogy legend
first appeared in Shnei Luchot Habrit of Isaiah Horowitz (Shelah)
published posthumously by his son in Amsterdam in 1648, 140 years
after the first known members of the family died in Prague. See
http://www.geni.com/people/Moshe-Asher-Halevi/6000000001799294004
I think you can download the book >from
http://www.seforimonline.org/seforim_database.html . I haven't
figured out the page yet where the Yichus is located. Yehuda Gross
says he could not find it in Shelah and that the first source is
printed in 1889, in the notes by Rabbi Chanoch Traube in Megillot
Yichusin L'Maharal M'Prag. Maybe someone else can help me find
these reference as I am afraid my Hebrew is not good enough.

Randy Schoenberg
Los Angeles, CA


Stephen Falk <sfalkjd@...>
 

Randy: I first read of this ancestral line in Baruch Felix MUNK's
"Toledot Mischpachot Munk". The work is in Hebrew and my Hebrew is
not good enough to know whether he gave any useful sources for that
purported family history. It could be worth checking.

All the best,
Stephen

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Stephen Falk
Point Roberts, WA, USA
sfalkjd@gmail.com

On Mon, Nov 23, 2015 at 1:00 PM, E Randol Schoenberg randols@BSLAW.NET
<ravsig@lyris.jewishgen.org> wrote:
Can anyone point me to the source for the genealogy of the founder
of the Horowitz dynasty Yeshaya Halevi Horowitz (1465 Horovice -
1517 Prague) back to Pinhas Halevi Benbenisti (b. 1235) in Barcelona?
...


Josephine Levin <josephine9762@...>
 

Re; Ish Horowitz descent >from Rabbi Benveniste this is given in the
Hebrew book "Shemen HaTov" by Rabbi Shmuel Shmelke ben Tzvi Hirsh
halevi Ish Horowitz of Nicholsburg 1726-1778. It is available for
free download >from Hebrew books:

http://hebrewbooks.org/50691

In fact he traces the yichus much further back than Rabbi Benveniste
of Barcelona.

I am a direct descendant of Rabbi Pinchas Halevi Ish Horowitz of
Krakow who was married to Miriam Beyla bat R. Israel Isserles (sister
of the ReMa).
Josephine Levin - Jerusalem
Researching Ticktin/Tyckocinsky, Ish Horowitz, Margoliot, Rokeach,
Isserles, Harif, Rashi, Rittenberg, Goldstein, Eisenstein, Lipkin

From: "E. Randol Schoenberg" <randols@bslaw.net>
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2015 13:00:41 -0800

Can anyone point me to the source for the genealogy of the founder
of the Horowitz dynasty Yeshaya Halevi Horowitz (1465 Horovice -
1517 Prague) back to Pinhas Halevi Benbenisti (b. 1235) in Barcelona?
Everywhere I look you find this tree and the source is "tradition,"
but where is the first mention of this path?


Joseph Gilad <sujo1@...>
 

This is part of my wife's genealogy which I recently worked out, using My
Heritage and Geni.

We have known that Sue's GGGG-Father was Yehuda Leib Rapaport (The Shir).
Recently we found his wife and her ancestry in the Heller- Kahana tree,
which one can find on Geni etc. And this leads back to Isaias Horowitz,
(1465 1517) founder of the Horowitz family. And the male line can be found
in Geni or My Heritage going back to Benvenisti HaLevi in Barcelona 1170-
1230. I followed the male line back to 1005, and I could not find a male
ancestor there, so I went down the tree found a wife who was named (most
are not) and she took be way back, into the Jewish dynasties who were
appointed leaders (known as Exilarchs), and they can be followed all the
way back to Babylon, and before that to Judea and the kings of Israel.
It is all available in the data bases, and assuming there are no errors in
there , my wife's 100th, ancestor was Melech Shlomo. One should be able to
do likewise in Ancestry.com.

Joe Gilad, Netanya.