Rabbinic ordination in Lithuania #rabbinic


Jonathan Boiskin <jonboi1@...>
 

Hi fellow researchers,

According to my family legend, Rabbi Yehudah Leib HaKohen Katz (1845-1917)
was Rabbi of the shtetl of Dugalisik near Ignalina in Lithuania before 1917.
His son also became a Rabbi - Shimon Wolf Katz (1869-1943). Both immigrated
to Leeds, United Kingdom at some point, I don't know the date.

How do I go about finding out where both of these Rabbis were ordained in
Lithuania?

Thanks,

Jonathan Boiskin
Cherry Hill, New Jersey, USA
jonboi1@verizon.net


Lynn Saul <lynnsaul@...>
 

I have similar questions to Jonathan Boiskin about rabbinic ordination
in Lithuania. My great-great grandfather Avraham Veshasky was a rabbi/
dayan in Sereje 1810ish-1861. His son Isaac Veshasky was the head of a
school for children in Sereje started in 1886.
I have not been able to find any information about their yeshiva
education and ordination.
Lynn Saul
Researching VESHASKY, Kuper, Mandelstein Sereje, Vilkia.

From: Jonathan Boiskin <jonboi1@verizon.net>
Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2017 14:06:47 -0400

According to my family legend, Rabbi Yehudah Leib HaKohen Katz (1845-1917)
was Rabbi of the shtetl of Dugalisik near Ignalina in Lithuania before 1917.
His son also became a Rabbi - Shimon Wolf Katz (1869-1943). Both immigrated
to Leeds, United Kingdom at some point, I don't know the date.

How do I go about finding out where both of these Rabbis were ordained in
Lithuania?


Ittai Hershman
 

Historically, "semicha" -- the conferring of the title Rabbi -- was not
generally done through formal schooling, as became the norm in 20th
century America. In fact, the whole notion of yeshivas, or rabbinical
schools, as a training ground for rabbis is modern and Western
(specifically, Germany and then America). Even today, one can become an
Orthodox Rabbi through a private process of study and testing. See, for
instance, the Wikipedia entry for Zalman Nechemia Goldberg.

Tangentially, on the famous Lithuanian Yeshivas of the Nineteenth
Century, see the seminal work of Shaul Stampfer.

-Ittai Hershman


Lynn Saul <lynnsaul@...>
 

Stampfer's book has so much that applies to my family that it has been
important in my search for their yeshiva educational inforrmation.
However, I do know about smichah >from a rabbi and that probably is what
was involved for them!
I've appreciated this discussion!
Lynn Saul

From: Ittai Hershman <ittai.hershman@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2017 11:35:43 -0400
...
Tangentially, on the famous Lithuanian Yeshivas of the Nineteenth
Century, see the seminal work of Shaul Stampfer.