#poland - Searching for HALLAY, ZAGON and DIMANSKY (Ortelsburg) #poland


Ze'ev Itzhak Tschan
 

I am stuck with my search for my grandparents in #Poland and am searching for help. Here is what I know, starting at my grandmother:

Maria HALLAY, born 10.3.1904 in Rotthausen (Gelsenkirchen) –> my grandmother
- Johann HALLAY, born 19.10.1872 in Swietajno (Poland) -> her father
---- Wilhelm HALLAY, born 1848 in Swietajno (Poland) -> his father
---- mother unkknown
- Wilhelmine ZAGON, born 27.1.1880 in Szimanky (Poland) -> her mother

---- Adam ZAGON, died 6.4.1918 -> her father
---- Amortha Dimansky -> her mother

I would also be grateful for the eMail-Address of a professional researcher who is specialized on this region in Poland.

Thank you!

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[Ze'ev Itzhak Tschan, Har Adar, Israel]


Karen <kgschneider@...>
 

Hello Ze'ev,

I found an interesting record in Familysearch.org.  If you are not familiar with the site, you will need to establish a free account to access it. 
Have attached two Family Search links to the transcription of a marriage record from April 11, 1925 in Eijgelshoven (Netherlands).
Maria Hallaij, born March 10, 1904 in Rotthausen (Duitsland) married Jozephus Jacobus Rutten, born November 2, 1900 in Rotterdam, profession: kantoorbediende (office worker).
Maria's surname and the day of her birth are slightly different than you have but perhaps the surname spelling of Hallaij is a Durch version of Hallay? 
It also gives both sets of parents. Maria's are listed as Johann Hallaij, occupation: Landlouwer (farmer/agriculturalist) and Wilhelmine Zagon which are also very close to your information. 

Once you are in the marriage record each person is hyperlinked to more possible records in Family Search. And you will also see links to the Dutch archives that record came from.
If it turns out that the family spent time in the Netherlands, you might be able to seach their archives from the link provided by the marriage record.
I've found the Amsterdam archives excellent and fairly easy to use with the help of google translate for key words. The ones in other parts of the country that Family Search links to might be similar.

Karen Schneider


Ze'ev Itzhak Tschan
 

Thank you, Karen!

You are right: Those are my grandparents.

I know FamilySearch and also the Dutch archives. So there is no new information for me. Even if I follow all the links in there. For example: I only see a dead born child of her, but not my mother and not her sister (Else) and brother (Jan). I also don't find the date of her death and I don't remember when this was. It's quite long ago. Something 197x, if I remember right, but could also be 196x...

-> I have to continue my search in Poland, where my grandmothers family came from.

My Grandmother lived in Germany (Rotthausen, near Gelsenkirchen), before she married. I have a document from there, and it states, where her family came from. They came from Prussia (now Poland). I won't find anything more about them in Dutch archives. In my grandfather, who was from Rotterdam, I am not interested.

By the way: I have my family in MyHeritage. Here: https://www.myheritage.com/site-547158661/tschan

Best regards, Ze'ev
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[Ze'ev Itzhak Tschan, Har Adar, Israel]


Karen <kgschneider@...>
 

Ze'ev, I see the links from my first response did not transfer the actual records in the attachments.
But I was able to copy and scan the attached images for you. 
You can still access the marriage record with the hyperlinks to the individuals from any of the first attachments by registering with Family Search,
clicking on the Record tab and then inputting the name Maria Hallaij into the search function.
I am still not sure these are the people you are searching for but the names seem very similar in so many ways.

Good luck, 
Karen Schneider