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moderated "Unorthodox" - 2015 film about a college year spent in Israel and another, 2020 a wife, 19, flees to Berlin from Satmar Williamsburg #germany #usa #israel


Jeff at SG
 
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The film 'Unorthodox' (free on Amazon Prime) might be of interest to those whose children will be spending their first college year in Israel. An eyeopener, at least to me.

PS  It seems there are several films with that same title.
The one I was referring to about the college year in Israel is on Amazon Prime by Anna Wexler, 2015.
Not the 2020 Netflix one with the same name or several others.
Sorry for the confusion.

Jeff Malka,   SephardicGen.com


Sarah L Meyer
 

There is a book with the same name, which I bought a few years ago on Amazon.  This has been discussed in one of the FB Jewish genealogy groups with the Hassidim saying that the author excluded information from those who choose to join this group.  That said the point of the book was the difficulty of leaving the group and the challenges faced by those who do.  It was a very good read.  I suggest the book for those who prefer to read books.  I am not a movie watcher and do not know how closely the movie follows the book.
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Vivian Kahn
 
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I have watched two episodes and find the series very engrossing.

Vivian Kahn, Santa Rosa, CA


JewishGen German Research Division Coordinator
 

New York Times - March 31, 2020

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How ‘Unorthodox’ Captured One Woman’s Flight From Hasidic Brooklyn

Deborah Feldman left her ultra-Orthodox Jewish community for a new life in Berlin. She talked about what it has been like having her autobiography adapted for Netflix.


sharon yampell
 

I read that book and it was discovered to possibly be a hoax; bool still made for good reading before I had heard about it possibly being a hoax…there is also presumably  a second book!

 

Sharon F. Yampell

Voorhees, NJ USA

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New York Times - March 31, 2020

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How ‘Unorthodox’ Captured One Woman’s Flight From Hasidic Brooklyn

Deborah Feldman left her ultra-Orthodox Jewish community for a new life in Berlin. She talked about what it has been like having her autobiography adapted for Netflix.

 


fredelfruhman
 

There are youtube videos with the author Deborah Feldman, who now lives in Germany.  This book does not at all seem to have been a hoax.  That rumor may have been started by members of the Chassidic group that she left.

As to the show on Netflix:  to the best of my understanding, the scenes that dealt with her time as a member of the community were based on the book, the scenes that deal with the time after she left that community are fictional.
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Fredel Fruhman
Brooklyn, New York, USA


aRumani8@...
 

When the book was released there was a wholesale assault (not physical!) on her by the Hassidic community.  The book is accurate according to her recollections, meaning it is an autobiography rather than a biography or history.  The community complains that some things could not have happened the way she writes them because of a historical time line, for example,  when certain buildings were constructed.  These types of memory re-arrangements are common in autobiographies, they are fabrications.  There were small changes, more for clarity, but they were not "lies" as the Hasidic community trolls stated.  For example, in the book she mentions that she watched the film, "Trembling Before G-d" and that she saw her mother in the film.  In fact, her mother, who has since come out as a lesbian, is interviewed in the in the extra reel.  I am guessing she changed this, as the "truth" would be needlessly clumsy to explain, and also some people were left out of the story (her younger sister) for privacy reasons. Fredel is correct, the scenes of her life in the community were as portrayed in the book, her live in Berlin are fictional.  Her mom lives in the US and is a science teacher, I believe.


Karen Lukeman
 

I haven't watched Unorthodox on Netflix, but here is an article which may be of interest.

https://forward.com/life/442798/i-left-the-satmar-hasidic-community-unorthodox-is-a-grossly-inaccurate/?utm_source=PostUp&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Saturday%20Newsletter%20RSS&utm_maildate=04/04/2020
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