German "JUDEN UND DISSIDENT" baptism/christening certificates for Jews? #germany
Wesetx@...
I've noticed this prevalent in 19th century birth certificates for German Jews. What is the reason for listing a "baptism/christening" for them in place of a birth certificate, or am I misunderstanding something?
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EdrieAnne Broughton
Before the 20th Century often the prevalent church was the recorder of births, deaths and marriages...mainly because one church was 'official' and all other religions were dissident..so it wasn't just Jews who were singled out...many Christian sects were also labeled dissident.
EdrieAnne Broughton
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Barbara Mannlein <bsmannlein@...>
Check the dates carefully. Often, the brit milahs were recorded as baptisms…. If the ‘baptism’ occurred 8 days after birth it was the brit.
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Barbara Mannlein Tucson, AZ
On Apr 9, 2020, at 2:05 PM, EdrieAnne Broughton <edrieanne@...> wrote:
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Rodney Eisfelder
Wesetx,
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Gerald and Margaret
There were also many "baptisms " for pragmatic reasons. An aunt of mine has described to me how in the 1930s in E Hungary her father was denied promotion in a Bank until he and his family converted to the prevalent Christian denomination, Calvinism. She remembers that because she was over six years old, she had to attend an interview with a Rabbi to ensure that she was doing this willingly. Her brother was too young for this, so his conversion was part of the family package. For the next two terms, she had private tuition, “to indoctrinate her into Calvinism”. She describes that this was effective, as she remained very committed to Calvinism until the events of 1944.
There were also those in Nazi occupied areas who hoped they could avoid the increasing discrimination by having the piece of paper to show that they were legitimate Christians.
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