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Is Bischofsburg Ostpreußen in the Town Finder the same place as "Bischofsburg Koenigsberg" #poland #germany


Joyaa Antares
 

Hi Folks,
I hope the formatting of this message isn't too messy....
Is Bischofsburg Ostpreußen - which is listed in the JewishGen Town Finder - the same place as that in the screenshot "Bischofsburg Koenigsberg"?
The town in the town finder is also listed as "Biskupiec, Poland".   
However, does this link suggest that page suggest that "Bischofsburg Koenigsberg" is a region?   https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kreis_R%C3%B6%C3%9Fel 
(Please excuse the warping of the special characters in the link!)


Many thanks for your help.  
Joyaa ANTARES, Gold Coast, Queensland, AUSTRALIA
Researching GERSON and NEUMANN from Gumbinnen amongst many others.


Rodney Eisfelder
 

Joyaa,
I looked up Julius Gerson at https://www.mappingthelives.org
and it shows that he was born at Bischofsburg in 1899, but was living at Koenigsberg in 1939.
So "Bischofsburg-Koenigsberg" is two places, not one.
Bischofsburg, now known as Biskupiec was the town where my great-grandfather's siblings were all born. It was in Kreis Roessel (Rößel) but is now in Powiat Olsztynski (Allenstein)

By the way, mappingthelives shows that Erna Czerninski née Gerson as well as Jacob and Manfred Czerninski and Käte Bohm lived at the same address as Julius in 1939. Erna was born at Nikolaiken in 1895.

I hope this helps,
Rodney Eisfelder
Melbourne, Australia


Jill Whitehead
 

Boundaries were very fluid in the past, due to wars, conquest etc. The area that was East Prussia around Olstyn/Allenstein went into Poland in 1945. When I visited my ancestral area in NE Poland in 2000 (Suwalki Lomza), with my husband and brother,  we had a look at some of the Prussian areas that went into Poland in 1945 in the vicinity of  Elk (formerly Lyck) and Gizycko, and the scenery and style of buildings were completely different to the Polish areas over the former border, even now. And the same is true for roads and rail - they still stop and go  N-S rather than E-W direction, due to now long-gone old borders.

However, the exception to this is Konigsberg itself. This became the Russian enclave of Kaliningrad. Konigsberg/Kaliningrad was the centre for the football world cup when it was held in Russia a few years ago. 

Jill Whitehead, Surrey  UK
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