genealogy forums in russian to overcome brick wall in research? #ukraine #russia
JUROVSKY,Catherine
I came to a brick wall sarching for my Yurovskii ancestors. They come from Lubny (in the Poltava region) which was the site of a mass shooting (no vital records or cemetry left
Luckily I discovered on the Yad Vashem that one brother of my grand father Lazar, his wife Olga and their daughter Karina have been evacuated from Karakubstroy (now Ksomoslkye in the Dombass region) to Magnitogorsk in the Urals. I have tried to research them but to no avail (Ancestry, Myheritage, genanet....). A friend suggested the archives in Donetsk (closed for the time being). I thought of genealogy forum in russian ? or else if anybody has an idea of a research tool. Any idea is welcome. Signature: Please “sign” your posts and replies by including your full name at the end of your email. catherine.jurovsky@...>
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boris
Trying genealogy forums in Russian is an excellent idea because English-based web sites like Ancestry and Myheritage have little to no information about Soviet Russia and other Soviet republics. Most participants in Russian language forums are as willing to help as those on JewishGen (of course, few pompous asses always come with the territory but they can be ignored). For non-Russian speakers, if a question, a point, or an idea are expressed in short simple sentences, then the online translators will do pretty good job conveying the essence of a request.
Regarding Donetsk, it is still a war zone. Remember the Crimean Peninsula takeover by the Russians? The hostilities are still not over. One unfortunate outcome of the war specifically for genealogists was that since 2014 the Russians terminated the access from Ukraine to social media sites based in Russia. So, a question posted on a “Russian” forum may not be visible to those who are physically in Ukraine.
If Lazar Yurovsky was an engineer, or a manager at a plant or a mine in Donbass and later in the Urals, he may be mentioned in one of the many books about Jewish contribution to the Soviet war efforts. These books were published mostly in Israel, but some in the USA and in Russia in the last 30 years. Boris Feldblyum boris@...
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yelena.v.volk@...
The best russian forum in jewish genealogy is www.forum.j-roots.info
Welcome! sincerely, Elena <yelena.v.volk@...> Signature: Please “sign” your posts and replies by including your full name at the end of your email.
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yelena.v.volk@...
Catherine, I didn't find a record of Olga's evacuation in Yad Vashem site, only Lazar and Karina (the child).
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yelena.v.volk@...
Catherine, Elena Volk
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Alex Girshovich
The two main Russian-speaking forums that I use are Jewish roots https://forum.j-roots.info/ and Genealogy Forum VGD https://forum.vgd.ru/.
Both are fully accessed from all over the world, including Ukraine. As for the Russian-Ukrainian conflict, there are blocking measures from both sides. Russians block Ukrainians from accessing Russian sites, while Ukrainians block themselves from accessing Russian sites. Genealogy wise, the majority of forums are in Russia for various reasons. And of course, there are many Facebook groups which serve as a sort of genealogy forums. Alex Girshovich.
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JUROVSKY,Catherine
Dear Yellena As far as Lazar and Karina are concerned I only have what is at Yad Vashem. I only recently discovered their existence in the naturalization file of my grand father Naum Israel Benzion "Jurovsky" in France. The file dates back from 1932. For 4 years the naturalisation files were not available to researchers due to termite ridden premises.
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JUROVSKY,Catherine
Hello Bris
Thank you very much. I have created an account on jroots and will post some requests with the help of my russian teacher (I am a first year student !!) I fully understand the impact of the war in the Dombass even though I did not know social media forums had been cut. in fact I had requested some help to find them to an ukrainian researcher as I did not realize that Karakubstroy was the war area! She was duly offended by my request and I had to apologize ! I would not be able to read these books you mention, not being fluent in either hebrew or russian, of which I am really sorry about ! Could you give me more information about them! Very best regards Catherine catherine.jurovsky@...
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