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Family Tree of the Jewish People #general


Amy Federman
 

 

I am a historian who worked for many years for the Jewish Historical Society of Greater Washington and the National Park Service.  My husband and I have been working on both of our family's histories.  We have compiled a great deal of data and now are looking at ways to set up the data into a family tree format.  We had used Family Tree Maker when we did the previous work c. 2003-2004.  
 
We understand now that program isn't available anymore and so are looking at some new vehicles.  We are also trying to connect to your incredible work as part of Family Tree of the Jewish People, where we may find connections beyond our great grandparents on my side who came from Europe.  My husband's family came through the Shoah with many losses, but we have been interested in finding connections predating that time as well.
 
Any suggestions would be incredibly helpful and also ways to outline our next steps.  

Thank you in advance for your assistance,
Amy Federman
402 Ellsworth Drive
Silver Spring, MD 20910
301-585-0272
 
 


Joyaa Antares
 
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Dear Amy of Silver Spring,
I am responding to your post in which you asked “
We have compiled a great deal of data and now are looking at ways to set up the data into a family tree format.  We had used Family Tree Maker when we did the previous work c. 2003-2004. We … are looking at some new vehicles.  We are also trying to connect to your incredible work as part of Family Tree of the Jewish People, where we may find connections beyond our great grandparents on my side who came from Europe.
I imagine that many responders will suggest popular programs like Legacy, Rootsmagic, Family Historian and so on.  They are all very good and have many keen advocates.
I switched from Family Tree Maker to Family Historian (FH) many years ago.  However …  after a year or two, I decided that what was most important to me was how I wish to PRESENT my information to those interested and at this point I started using TNG (The Next Generation). 
Some TNG users, like myself, use TNG as their sole software.  Others use two sets of software – something like FH or Legacy or RootsMagic “at home” and then up load to TNG for their website.  Personally, one set of software is quite enough for me. 
My site is here – www.zausmerforest.com – as you can see, I choose to keep it locked down.  (The reason being that it contains a fair amount of sensitive family info).  Many users share their sites happily and the TNG software allows for many different “templates” or appearances/looks based on the same data.  Take a look here for a wealth of examples –
http://www.lythgoes.net/genealogy/usersites.php
--- there you will see examples of family trees --
https://bisbeefamily.com/
http://x.liebowitzes.com/genealogy/index.php
--- one name studies --
https://www.howesfamilies.com/
--- or sites that may be more similar to what you are trying to set up?
http://www.cemeteryscribes.com//index.php
http://cameraworkers.davidmattison.com/

I hope this helps.  Good luck!

Joyaa of the Gold Coast   
Gold Coast, Queensland, Australia


fred feldman
 

Family Tree Maker is still available. See

fred feldman <fred.feldman@...>

MODERATOR NOTE: Better yet, use a link that works:   https://www.mackiev.com/ftm/index.html
 


David Lewin
 

At 21:01 03/05/2020, Amy Federman via groups.jewishgen.org wrote:
I am a historian who worked for many years for the Jewish Historical
Society of Greater Washington and the National Park Service. My
husband and I have been working on both of our family's
histories. We have compiled a great deal of data and now are
looking at ways to set up the data into a family tree format. We
had used Family Tree Maker when we did the previous work c. 2003-2004.

We understand now that program isn't available anymore [SIC] and so are
looking at some new vehicles. We are also trying to connect to your
incredible work as part of Family Tree of the Jewish People, where
we may find connections beyond our great grandparents on my side who
came from Europe. My husband's family came through the Shoah with
many losses, but we have been interested in finding connections
predating that time as well.

Any suggestions would be incredibly helpful and also ways to outline
our next steps.

Thank you in advance for your assistance,   Amy Federman   Silver Spring, MD   briarpath@...
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I have for many years used Ancestral Quest. It sprang out of the  Mormon world. Has superb support for the very rare times when I needed it
see https://www.ancquest.com/index.htm

David Lewin   London   david@...


Sarah L Meyer
 

I use Legacy Family Tree on my computer, and TNG for the web.  My TNG site is https://www.sarahsgenies.com.  Regardless of which program you use on your computer, Legacy, FTM, RootsMagic, MyHeritage Family Tree Builder, it is critical to keep your information on your computer, other sites can crash or have problems and you may not get your data back.  BTW Legacy and RootsMagic have free versions for you to try - the deluxe versions unlock extra features.  FTM is not free.  FamilyTree Builder is free but they want you to publish on their site and there is a limit of 250 people for the free site.  There are other programs also - and other collaborative sites such as Geni.   
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Sarah L Meyer
Georgetown TX
ANK(I)ER, BIGOS, KARMELEK, PERLSTADT, STOKFISZ, SZPIL(T)BAUM, Poland
BIRGARDOVSKY, EDELBERG, HITE (CHAIT), PERCHIK Russia (southern Ukraine) and some Latvia or Lithuania
https://www.sarahsgenies.com


Shel
 

And if you're using a Mac, "Reunion for the Macintosh" is still available:

You can purchase Reunion v12 from here <https://www.reunion-for-macintosh.com/cms/> for AUD$145 (approx. USD $93±)."

Shel Bercovich,   Calgary, AB, Canada   sbercovich@...>


rebasolomon
 

Thank you for posing this question.  My research has a working home on my Legacy software, but it is hard to find the right way to distribute the information to family and other researchers.  Legacy does have many different types of charts and reports, but when I sent people the .pdf reports, the truth is that no one printed them out, and I can't afford to self-publish for everyone, now and in the future.  It's decades of work to collect the information, but what is the end game?  Because of your question, I went back and looked again at Family Tree of the Jewish People, and found that now they accept uploads of gedcom files.  I happily exported all of my research lineages onto the Family Tree of the Jewish People.  Now my work is truly available to any researcher or relative who wants it, during my lifetime and beyond.   All I have to do is notify everyone to register at JewishGen.org, (if they're not already a member) and search the database: Family Tree of the Jewish People!  


Pieter Hoekstra
 

Gramps is a free open-source program.
gramps-project.org


wachs.sam@...
 

I strongly recommend using My Heritage. The free version will get you started, and the paid version will connect your tree with thousands of others and send you a notice when a match is found, thus enabling you to maybe contacting members of your family that you didn't know that exist. This is how I discovered relatives on my grandfather living in the US.
Good luck in your endeavors.
Sam Wachs- Israel


davide@...
 

Dear Amy,

I also attempted to build a personal family tree. I was very satisfied in using the "GenoPro" software. It was right what I needed, easy to use, intuitive, quick for amendments, and easily building even the most complicate inter-personal connections you can find among family members. Other than the tree graphical aspect, it is possible to add lots of information, photo, documents, etc., for any person listed. It also allows building several different trees (e.g. one for any branch of a family), linking the same person in each tree. Not the least, you also have the possibility to organise all the data of people involved in a table format, ordered for any detail entered.

Davide Csermely
Italy
(davide@...)


Pieter Hoekstra
 

Have you been able to download your Gedcom file from MyHeritage Sam?

I have tried a number of times without success and messages sent to MyHeritage to question this remain unanswered.


Peter Cohen
 

In addition, the current version of Family Tree Maker includes the capability to convert you old format FTM data files to their current format.  FTM includes the ability to synch to ancestry.com.  My personal preference is to do my updates online on my ancestry.com tree and then periodically synch it to Family Tree Maker on my computer.  This ensures that my data will always be current and available on ancestry, so if my computer hard drive crashed, all of my data is still out on ancestry. Having it local on my hard drive via Family Tree Maker, ensures that my data will not disappear if ancestry were to go bankrupt and shut down or if something happened to me and my family did not continue paying the ancestry subscription fees. There are free online family trees, such as GENI or familysearch.org.  Personally, I find ancestry's hints and search capabilities set it above their free competition. They are by no means perfect and do not necessarily transcribe all of the records that they claim to have transcribed, but ancestry remains my go-to source.


tom
 

has ftjp been fixed?  as of the last time i inquired (a year ago), it was broken (not processing gedcom files properly) and there was no estimate of when it would be available.


....... tom klein, toronto


At 3:07 -0700 5/5/20, main@... wrote:
Re: Family Tree of the Jewish People #general
From: rebasolomon
Date: Mon, 04 May 2020 21:43:54 EDT
Thank you for posing this question.  My research has a working home on my Legacy software, but it is hard to find the right way to distribute the information to family and other researchers.  Legacy does have many different types of charts and reports, but when I sent people the .pdf reports, the truth is that no one printed them out, and I can't afford to self-publish for everyone, now and in the future.  It's decades of work to collect the information, but what is the end game?  Because of your question, I went back and looked again at Family Tree of the Jewish People, and found that now they accept uploads of gedcom files.  I happily exported all of my research lineages onto the Family Tree of the Jewish People.  Now my work is truly available to any researcher or relative who wants it, during my lifetime and beyond.   All I have to do is notify everyone to register at JewishGen.org, (if they're not already a member) and search the database: Family Tree of the Jewish People! 


Max Heffler
 

I have used Brother’s Keeper shareware since DOS before Windows and later registered it. I get rapid bug fixes directly from the author. I use geni since there  is one definitive profile for everyone, and I became a curator. I also subscribe to Ancestry and MyHeritage but there are too many trees with so many duplicates that it is hard to keep everything up-to-date. So I keep my local database and geni up-to-date and use Family Tree Maker with Ancestry and MyHeritage Family Tree Builder to download the those trees to my PC from time-to-time to resolve duplicates and remove people not directly connected, and then sync back up. They don’t have useful tools for doing this online, unlike geni. I stay essentially caught up with geni and MyHeritage matches. Ancestry seems to keep growing. I have more than 21500 hints as of last night…

 

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Subject: Re: [JewishGen.org] Family Tree of the Jewish People #general

 

In addition, the current version of Family Tree Maker includes the capability to convert you old format FTM data files to their current format.  FTM includes the ability to synch to ancestry.com.  My personal preference is to do my updates online on my ancestry.com tree and then periodically synch it to Family Tree Maker on my computer.  This ensures that my data will always be current and available on ancestry, so if my computer hard drive crashed, all of my data is still out on ancestry. Having it local on my hard drive via Family Tree Maker, ensures that my data will not disappear if ancestry were to go bankrupt and shut down or if something happened to me and my family did not continue paying the ancestry subscription fees. There are free online family trees, such as GENI or familysearch.org.  Personally, I find ancestry's hints and search capabilities set it above their free competition. They are by no means perfect and do not necessarily transcribe all of the records that they claim to have transcribed, but ancestry remains my go-to source.


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Web sites I manage - Personal home page, Greater Houston Jewish Genealogical Society, Woodside Civic Club, Skala, Ukraine KehilalLink, Joniskelis, Lithuania KehilaLink, and pet volunteer project - Yizkor book project: www.texsys.com/websites.html


Peter Straus
 

I also want to put in a plug for Family Tree Maker in conjunction with Ancestry.   One feature I like about both is, while in different ways, they allow one to be fairly rigorous in documenting sources, a key ingredient in genealogical research that many are careless about, but that becomes essential in reconciling the conflicting connections we have all seen.   (That is also my most severe criticism of FTJP, which contains much undocumented—and inaccurate—information.)  One severe shortcoming though of Ancestry alone is the inability to copy more than a single record at a time, while FTM allows copying trees in whole or in part in FTM or GED formats to make data available to other researchers—including source documentation.

--peter straus

   San Francisco


rv Kaplan
 

Like Max Heffler, I have used Brother's Keeper for many many years.  It's dependable, not gimmicky and does the job.  Not great on the graphics or producing reports/trees for sharing with family.  Often think of moving, but never got round to it. I use BK as the master copy of my tree, where I'm in full control.

I also have versions of  my trees on My Heritage - though never really update it - JewishGen FTJP (haven't updated that in a long long time) - and Geni.  I have my trees on Geni in case someone contacts me, but if I turn my back, my trees get messed up by people adding duplicate siblings, and moving family members about, grafting them on to wrong parents or wrong partners. People seem to do this without any reference to me in advance, assuming their research is more accurate than mine.  As a result, I am very hesitant about trusting Geni's information, without checking back on the sources if I can.  

I think the problem in sites such as MH and Geni is that people seems to love hoovering up tangential families.  Doesn't interest me when MH keeps telling me it has a whole tribe relating to someone who married my 5th cousin.  I could understand if it was generations ago and was in the same ancestral shtetl - when there may well have been common blood links - but nowadays, doesn't grab me. To each his own.   

Harvey Kaplan
Glasgow, Scotland

KAPLAN, FAYN, FEIN, FINE, BARSD, GRADMAN

- Ariogala, Josvainiai, Kedainiai, Krakes, Seta, Veliuona, Grinkiskis, Lithuania

FELMAN, MIL(L)ER, ROSENBLOOM - Kamenets-Podolsk, Shatava, Balyn, Ukraine

TROPP, STORCH - Kolbuszowa, Cmolas,Galicia

LINDERMAN, LINDEMAN, LOPATKA, SCHLACKMAN – Kutno and  Plock, Poland


Eva Lawrence
 

I use FamilyTree Maker 2019,  apaid-for upgrade from a disc of an earlier version. All the software, I assume,  is on my hard disc.
I'm wary of upgrading to a newer version., since several programmes that one used to buy one-off now have upgraded to versions  for which an annual subscription is required, Microsoft Word is the best-known example, but many other companies have adopted this policy. So if your income disappears, all hope of further work on the tree 
disappears, even if the tree is still available to you. 
Eva Lawrence
St Albans, UK.