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Headstone Translation #translation


Pamela Works McCarthy
 

Hoping someone can translate the Hebrew on this headstone. 

Thank you in advance. 


darryl@...
 

I'm no expert but I believe Harry is Tsvi, son of Hertz. 
Leah's stone says she is Leah, (I think it says her maiden name is "Zeltser"). 
Its unusual to show maiden names - usually fathers given name is used. Perhaps someone with better Hebrew can enlighten us?


Dr.Josef ASH
 

(Here lies) Dear mother and gM Lea B:OCK nee ZEITSER passed away on 17 of Kislew( may her soul be bound up in the bond of everlasting life)
(HL )Mr Tsvi son of Mr Herts passed away on 9 of Tamuz (may his soul be bound up in the bond of everlasting life)


ken_berlin@...
 

Rabbi Zvi Ben Herz
Jewish death date
תנצב"ה is a common inscription on tomb stones meaning may his soul be bound in the bond of life

dear mother and kind grandmother Lea Blak from Selzer family
Jewish death date

  as aboveתנצב"ה


Kenneth Ryesky
 

Dear mother and beloved grandmother / Leah Block of the House of Zeltzer / Died 17 Kislev 5760.

Mr. Tzvi, son of Hertz / Died 9 Tammuz 5723.

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My comments:

1.  Gives Hebrew dates (remember that Hebrew day begins at sundown).
2.  Gives Leah's probable birth surname, and Harry's father's Hebrew/Yiddish given name (look for confirmatory info in other records)
3.  The English inscriptions indicate that they were survived by grandchildren and great-grandchildren (and for Leah, the Hebrew indicates grandchildren).   Such information can give clues to chase down as to descendants [Example:  Husband is listed as a grandfather, but wife, who died later, is listed as a grandmother and great-grandmother; indicative of a birth in the interim.]

Best of luck with your searches.

-- KHR
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Ken Ryesky
Petach Tikva, ISRAEL
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Ukraine:  Yelizavetgrad:  Broad/Brodsky (also Odessa), Gertzig/Gertzog
Ukraine/Russia/Turkey:  Yevpatoriya:  Israelson, Arshenov


btkerman@...
 

I would add that the abbreviation before Tzvi is for  Reb, a title more like mister than Rabbi. 
As an aside, the Yiddish names Hertz or Hirsch mean a deer, as does the Hebrew name Tzvi. Tzvi Hirsch or sometimes Tzvi Hertz are common combination names and someone known as  Hirsch or Hertz could actually have the Hebrew name Tzvi. In this case it is unlikely that Tzvi's father Hertz had the Hebrew name Tzvi since children aren't usually named after living parents in Ashkenazi custom. Another name combination is Naftali Hertz (the tribe of Naftali is symbolized by a deer in Jacobs blessing to his son), it is therefore possible that Tzvi's father Hertz had the Hebrew name Naftali or that he simply had only a Yiddish name.

Binyamin Kerman
Baltimore MD


fredelfruhman
 

If you have other gravestones, may I suggest that you post them on the ViewMate page.  It was created for that purpose, and is really the best way to get a gravestone translated.

Here is my reading:

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At the top of the stone, inside the Star of David, a two-letter abbreviation meaning “Here lie”

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Right side:

Dear mother and beloved grandmother

LEAH BLOCK of the house of SELTZER [in other words, this was her maiden name]

Died on the 17th of Kislev, 5730  [not 5760, as someone else read]

May her soul be bound up in the bond of life.

[This stone is a bit unusual, in that it does not include the Hebrew name of her father.  It does include her last name and her maiden name, which is also a bit unusual.  As to the date of death:  the 17th of Kislev, 5730, began at sunset on November 26th, 1969, and ended at sunset on the 27th.  The stone gives the secular date as being the 26th.  This means that she passed away between sunset and midnight on the 26th].

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Left side:

Reb TZVI, son of Reb Hertz

died the 9th of Tamuz, 5723

May his soul be bound up in the bond of life.

[‘Reb’ is an honorific; it does not mean rabbi.  As to the date of death:  the 9th of Tamuz, 5723, began at sunset on June 30th, 1963, and ended at sunset on July 1st.  The stone gives the secular date as being June 30th.  Here, again, it makes it possible to narrow down the time of death to between sunset and midnight on the 30th.]

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Fredel Fruhman
Brooklyn, New York, USA


Chayim Fried
 

Tzvi and Hertz are not the same name, it only sounds similar to Hersh, but it is not the same and it is possible for a father and son to have tzvi and Hertz at the same time


Sally Bruckheimer
 

"Tzvi and Hertz are not the same name."  And, he says Hirsch is.
 
Tzvi and Hirsch are not the same name ether; one is Yiddish and German, while and the other Hebrew. They have the same meaning, a stag, but they are not the same.  Hertz is a spelling variant of Hirsch.
 
When you ask if something is the same, it isn't easy. Ze'ev is not the same as Wolf, it is a translation.
Our ancestors often used the 'sounds like' when going from Russia or somewhere to English, and ignored the meaning.
 
However, I had a great aunt Doe, who was probably Tzvia, the female meaning, well, Doe. She was the exception that proves the rule.
 
Sally Bruckheimer
Princeton, NJ
 
 


Chayim Fried
 

you are partially right
Hersh is a translation of Tzvi, mostly people who are called hersh, the real name is Tzvi, and only called hersh, i know a few that are called Tzvi hersh both at a time but also rare, but very rarely (or if at all) will someone be called hersh alone,

Hertz ( even if the origin might come from hersh, which i dont know) i have never heard any one be called Tzvi Hertz, we hear alot Naftula hertz.
Zev and wolf, yes wolf is a translation of zev, we see some called zev wolf, rarely wolf as self


Max Heffler
 

I have seen lots of Tzvi Hershes in my trees

 

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you are partially right
Hersh is a translation of Tzvi, mostly people who are called hersh, the real name is Tzvi, and only called hersh, i know a few that are called Tzvi hersh both at a time but also rare, but very rarely (or if at all) will someone be called hersh alone,

Hertz ( even if the origin might come from hersh, which i dont know) i have never heard any one be called Tzvi Hertz, we hear alot Naftula hertz.
Zev and wolf, yes wolf is a translation of zev, we see some called zev wolf, rarely wolf as self


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btkerman@...
 

It is true that Tzvi usually goes with Hirsch and for some reason Naftali goes with Hertz, but there are always exceptions. There was a Rabbi Shmuel Tzvi Hertz Luknietzky, and there are definitely other instances.
I also didn't mean to exclude the possibility that a father and son could be Hertz (or even Hirsch) and Tzvi.

Binyamin Kerman
Baltimore MD


Neil Kominsky
 

Naftali matches with Tzvi and Hirsch/Hertz because the symbol of the Biblical tribe of Naftali is a deer.
 
Neil Kominsky
Brookline, MA