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BAUMGARTEN/BOWMAN #poland #unitedkingdom #lithuania #southafrica


Judy Bowman
 

Hello, my name is Judy Bowman.  My great-grandfather Israel Bowman's last name was Baumgarten, born in "Wladyslawow, Poland" (which is surely Lithuania)  May 18, 1880(sometimes other dates given).   The last of 16 children born to Jacob Baumgarten from 2 different wives.  Almost all of them changed their name from Baumgarten to Bowman.  We know the names of a few of his siblings: Harris, Joseph, and Israel went to the UK. Sol/Solomon went to Shanghai.  There may also be a Simon Baumgarten.  Israel settled in Port Talbot, Wales, married Esther Fellman from Sakiai, Lithuania and had 3 children: Jacob, Harry(my grandfather), and Anne, all came to the US.  Harris's children Barnett "Barney" and Joseph went to South Africa.  Some Bowmans eventually returned to the UK (Clive) and some went to Canada (Glenda, another Harry and David Bowman).  I would love to find more on Jacob Baumgarten, the father of these 16 children, wives' names.  if I could secure a birth certificate for Israel or any of his siblings, it might have the mother listed.  Or, a death certificate for Jacob Baumgarten or Jacob Bowman which seems to be a common name in the UK. The ones I've found, the dates don't match up.  If anyone has Baumgarten in their families from the UK or Lithuania/Poland, and even Belarus or Riga, I'd love to get in touch to see if we're connected.  For a variety of reasons, I haven't don't DNA testing. 


Dr.Josef ASH
 

Hello, Judy.
You know it, sure, but to those who don't:
the town you mentioned is now called in Lithuania Kudirkos-Novamestis ("new town Kudirkos" in Lithuwnian)
Shabbath shalom,
Josef ASH, Israel


Judy Bowman
 

New discovery: In researching my great-grandfather's brother/half-brother Harris Bowman, I looked at HIS records to find some clues...he listed his birth town as Russcheitz, Poland or Russia.  When I looked up a sound-alike town in the town finder on JewishGen, I got Russocice, Poland, which was also called Wladyslawow-Russocice at times.  And so, we are not from Wladyslawow, Lithuania aka Kurdikos-Naumestis.  It is back to Wladyslawow, Poland.  Surely the two brothers, though many years apart, are both from this town.  One lists Russcheitz, Poland, and the other lists Wladyslawow, Poland years later.  I'm still looking for Jacob Baumgarten, who left that place and came to the UK with Harris and Israel.  Harris is probably Hersz or a derivation:  I found his tombstone, and he is listed as Zvi Ben Yakov, so Hirsch.   I'm still looking for birth or death certificates on Israel or Harris, that might say what their mothers' names were.  I have done DNA testing, but so far no connections with Baumgarten relatives.  I wish these Baumgarten's would come up accurately in JRI-Poland.  

 

Judy Bowman

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USA
Researching: Baumgarten/Bowman(Wladyslawow, Poland, Wales UK, South Africa), Halpern(Grodno, Indura), Kopelman(Odessa/Starokonstantinov) Rosenbaum(Sieradz, Zychlin, Lodz), Muskat(Halubitz), Fellman/Felman/Berkman(Sakiai), Aschkenas(Chroskoff, Austria)