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moderated Ancestor with Several Different Given Names? in records from 1800s Hungary #hungary


Ed Zwieback
 

I found records for my GGF POLLAK with different given names for various life events.  This was  Farkas POLLAK (born 1814) and his son (born 1846)  in Zala county (SW part of Hungary), a German-speaking part of the A-H empire.

Based on the limited records I have; in 1846, he used the name Jozsef when recording his son's birth.  Then in 1848, he used Farkas for the Jewish Census.

In 1855 and 1868, he used Wilhelm in his children's marriage registers.  1877, for his daughter Fani's (my GM)  marriage, his name was Wolf.  The 1901 death record for his daughter Fani showed Jozsef for her father.

A similar situation with Farkas' son;  born in 1846, given name of Lipot, then in the 1848 census, he was named Samuel, then he was named as Izidor for all  further records to his death in 1927.

Thanks for any ideas/comments ,

Ed Zwieback

Long Beach, California

http://ezwieback.com/ZPK-p/index.htm


Schonfeld.family@...
 

Jews used Hebrew or Yiddish given names. The secular names used in documents were sometimes connected (a translation), the first letter of the secular name had the same sound or were not connected.
I have similar issues of the sane person with several secular names in different documents.
In your case I guess the Jewish name was Wolf (or Ze'ev in Hebrew). Farkas is a wolf in Hungarian and Wilhelm has W like Wolf.
The name Jozsef is either not connected or he had 2 names.

Jacob Shayzaf, Israel   <Schonfeld.family@...>


Yohanan
 

In Austro-Hungary Jozef could have been a none-Jewish secular name. As Jacob mentioned in his previous comment,
Josef's Hebrew name could have been Ze'ev which is also Wolf and Wilhelm. 
The same could have applied to Lipot- Samuel though I have no explanation to how  Isidor got into here.
Unless his secular name was Isidor, his Hebrew double name Samuel - Yehuda and Lipot could have been the Hungarian version of Yehuda.
Yohanan Loeffler, Melbourne Australia


Susan H. Sachs
 

Continuing the response of Yohanan:  Lipot seems to have been the Hungarian equivalent for "Leibe" (Yiddish) which often combined with Yehuda (Hebrew) as in Yehuda-Leibe.  
 
Susan H. Sachs, Beit Shemesh, Israel

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