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passenger manifest missing/not indexed? #general


Ryan Cramer
 

On my great-grandfather’s immigration docs he indicated that he (Julius Silver) arrived in New York on Dec 25, 1904 on the vessel “SS Rotterdam”, sailing from Rotterdam.  I can’t find a passenger manifest that matches dates and locations.  Are some of them still unpublished/not indexed?  If anyone has a source where I’m able to find this I’d really appreciate it.   Thank you!


Mark Jacobson
 

The SS Rotterdam, a ship from the Holland American Line, arrived in NY December 14, 1904, not December 25, 1904.

Mark Jacobson
Past President, JGSPBCI
Gesher Galicia Board member
JRI-Poland Town Leader Boryslaw and Drohobycz
Boca Raton, FL

DOGULOV/DOVGALEVSKY - Tripolye/Vasilkov/Kiev Ukraine;
COHEN/KANA/KAHAN - Tripolye, Ukraine;
JACOBSON - Polotsk/Lepel, Belarus; KOBLENTZ - Polotsk, Belarus;
KAMERMAN/KAMMERMANN, WEGNER - Drohobycz, Galicia;
KOPPEL - Stebnik/Drohobycz, Galicia;
JACOBI - Stratyn/Rohatyn, Galicia; ROTHLEIN - Stratyn/Rohatyn, Galicia;
TUCHFELD - Rzeszow/Stryj/Lvov, Galicia; GOLDSTEIN - Ranizow, Galicia


On Sunday, June 7, 2020, 03:51:25 PM EDT, Ryan Cramer via groups.jewishgen.org <rycramer=yahoo.com@...> wrote:


On my great-grandfather’s immigration docs he indicated that he (Julius Silver) arrived in New York on Dec 25, 1904 on the vessel “SS Rotterdam”, sailing from Rotterdam.  I can’t find a passenger manifest that matches dates and locations.  Are some of them still unpublished/not indexed?  If anyone has a source where I’m able to find this I’d really appreciate it.   Thank you!


Friedman, H George
 

"On my great-grandfather’s immigration docs he indicated that he (Julius Silver) arrived in New York on Dec 25, 1904 on the vessel “SS Rotterdam”, sailing from Rotterdam. I can’t find a passenger manifest that matches dates and locations. Are some of them still unpublished/not indexed? If anyone has a source where I’m able to find this I’d really appreciate it. Thank you!"

Keep in mind that the info on the immigration docs was often given from memory, and the date and/or the ship name might be wrong. I would look at similar dates and, if necessary, other ships from around the same time.

Good luck.

George Friedman


Diane Jacobs
 

If you go to stevemorse.org
You can search the pages of any ship arrival
By clicking on the ship lists section on the first batch passenger manifests to New York. Type in the name of the ship and the month and year. When it comes up, click on the ship's name and up will come the actual manifest pages to look through.

Good luck.
Diane Jacobs



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From: "Mark Jacobson via groups.jewishgen.org" <mark_j1_2000=yahoo.com@...>
Date: 6/7/20 3:53 PM (GMT-05:00)
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Subject: Re: [JewishGen.org] passenger manifest missing/not indexed? #general

The SS Rotterdam, a ship from the Holland American Line, arrived in NY December 14, 1904, not December 25, 1904.

Mark Jacobson
Past President, JGSPBCI
Gesher Galicia Board member
JRI-Poland Town Leader Boryslaw and Drohobycz
Boca Raton, FL

DOGULOV/DOVGALEVSKY - Tripolye/Vasilkov/Kiev Ukraine;
COHEN/KANA/KAHAN - Tripolye, Ukraine;
JACOBSON - Polotsk/Lepel, Belarus; KOBLENTZ - Polotsk, Belarus;
KAMERMAN/KAMMERMANN, WEGNER - Drohobycz, Galicia;
KOPPEL - Stebnik/Drohobycz, Galicia;
JACOBI - Stratyn/Rohatyn, Galicia; ROTHLEIN - Stratyn/Rohatyn, Galicia;
TUCHFELD - Rzeszow/Stryj/Lvov, Galicia; GOLDSTEIN - Ranizow, Galicia


On Sunday, June 7, 2020, 03:51:25 PM EDT, Ryan Cramer via groups.jewishgen.org <rycramer=yahoo.com@...> wrote:


On my great-grandfather’s immigration docs he indicated that he (Julius Silver) arrived in New York on Dec 25, 1904 on the vessel “SS Rotterdam”, sailing from Rotterdam.  I can’t find a passenger manifest that matches dates and locations.  Are some of them still unpublished/not indexed?  If anyone has a source where I’m able to find this I’d really appreciate it.   Thank you!

--
Diane Jacobs, Somerset, New Jersey


Marion Werle
 

Immigration recollections are not always correct. For some reason (I haven't conducted a scientific survey, however!) people seem to remember the ship name more often than the precise date. If you search by month/year and ship name (don't use a name in your search), you will get a list of manifests from the approximate time period. You may need to search the manifests manually, and you may need to expand the time period. Also, Julius Silver may have arrived under the surname Zilber, and Julius may have been something else as well. You need to be very creative when searching for passenger lists. My comments reflect doing searches on Ancestry.

And for the record, I have never found my maternal grandmother's ship manifest after 25 years of searching. She was always boasting that she didn't have to travel in steerage, and Marian Smith (formerly of USCIS) said that non-steerage passengers didn't always appear on passenger manifests during some time periods.

Marion Werle
<canadagenes@...>
Los Angeles, CA