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Photographs of Lodz Cemetery #poland


Richard Gilbert
 

According to the JRI Poland database, photographs have been taken of graves at the Lodz Cemetery.  
The names of the people I am interested in are Mordka Maslanka buried in Section C, Row 6, Grave 69, Side P and Fajga Maslanka buried in Section U, Row 5, Grave 145.  
According to the same database the images should be available as Register Page No. 52, Image No. P1020963.jpg and No.53 Image No. P1020964.jpg.
I have looked through all the links but but I do not seem able to find a link to these images.  
Does anyone know how I might do so?  
I've attached an image of the screen shot for ease of reference.  
#Poland #photographs #Lodz #LodzCemetery


Nolan Altman
 

Hi Richard,

The .jpg files you referred to are pictures of the ledger pages that were used to create the database...they are not photos of the actual headstones.  The ledger was compiled by the "Organization of Former Residents of Lodz in Israel (Tel Aviv)".  Please see http://data.jewishgen.org/imagedata/jowbr/POL-03068/lodz.html  for a description of the cemetery and an explanation on how the database was created.

JewishGen does not have copies of headstone photos from this cemetery nor do we have any other information on individual burials.  I'd be interested in hearing from others who have obtained headstone photos, how they received them.  The cemetery has its own website at http://www.jewishlodzcemetery.org/ but I don't know how accommodating they are with photo requests.

 

Nolan Altman

JOWBR Coordinator


Jeff Miller
 

When I was in Poland Taube had a tour of the cemetery which I participated in. I took a few photographs of some headstones for Brzezinski’s.

Best regards,
Jeff Miller
Maryland


Richard Gilbert
 

Hi Nolan,

Thank you for your reply and clarification.  

I had tried to navigate round the links through the JRI Poland database but was unclear as to what the database was recording.  

What I'm also unclear on, is if one has the grave location for an individual from the JRI Poland database, shouldn't that correspond with the database maintained by www.jewishlodzcemetery.org?  When I clinked on the section for the person JRI Poland is saying is buried in the cemetery, they do not appear listed in the relevant section of the Lodz Cemetery database.  They don't even come up on a person search.  Is there a reason for that?

Thanks

Richard


Richard Gilbert
 

I was there last November but on a Shoah related tour.  
There was no time to do personal research.

Kind regards
Richard Gilbert
Hertfordshire, England


Miriam Bulwar David-Hay
 

Hi Nolan and Richard and anyone else interested in the Lodz cemetery. I have done intensive research on Lodz and on my own family from the city, many of whom were buried in the cemetery, and I have been there twice, most recently in May 2019. As you have noted, the jpg numbers don’t link to photos and the website of the cemetery put up by the Jewish community in Lodz has some general photos but not of specific graves. Really the only way to obtain photos of specific headstones is either to visit in person (obviously not possible at this time of curtailed travel) or to contact the Jewish community and request a photo. They will probably want a donation/payment of some kind. I don’t know what the rate is.

You might want to note that if your relatives were among the tens of thousands of unfortunate people who died inside the ghetto during the war years, they were probably buried in the “ghetto field” and although they will be in a defined plot, they most likely will not have headstones at all unless surviving relatives arranged a headstone post-war. Also, some of the northern/western side of the cemetery was destroyed when roads were extended in the area, and those graves are lost. Also, in many parts of the cemetery many headstones are in bad shape, worn away with age and weather and/or overgrown with vegetation.

Efforts are being made to look after the cemetery, and especially in the central part around the main alley most of the stones seem to be in place and although old and worn are more or less legible. Hopefully your family’s stones would be among those!

Just to give you an idea of how things look, I am attaching two photos I took in the cemetery last year. The first is the grave of my great-great-grandfather, Chaim Leib Bulwa(r), who died in 1921 at the age of 64. He is buried more or less in the center, close to the Poznanski mausoleum. You can see that the graves in this section are in reasonable condition. The second is his son, my great-grandfather, Szmul Aron Bulwar, who died in the Lodz Ghetto in January 1941, ironically also at the age of 64. He is buried in the ghetto field and relatives put up a tombstone after the war. You can see how empty the field is, with a few tombstones dotted here and there.

I hope all the above assists you.

All the best,
Miriam Bulwar David-Hay,
Raanana, Israel.


 


Richard Gilbert
 

I've now found what I am looking for.  
Thank you to those who reach out to me privately.
Kind regards
Richard Gilbert
Hertfordshire, England


Richard Gilbert
 

Hi Miriam,

Thank you or your response and photos.

I was in the New Lodz Cemetery in November and got to see for myself the state of the cemetery and the "ghetto field'.  Unfortunately I did not have time to do genealogical research as my wife and I were there as part of a Shoah related journey with our synagogue. Our tour followed the journey of the amazing Mala Tribich MBE who accompanied us on our journey,

The graves I found particularly harrowing were of the Bnei Akiva madrichim who were killed after the end of the war.  And the 6 unfilled pits by the cemetery wall near the entrance to the cemetery. See the photos below.  I have also attached a photo of what the prayer hall and a general view of part of the cemetery and the grave of Isaac Hertz who died in 1905, whose headstone I found particularly fascinating.  He is buried near the Poznanski mausoleum where Salomon Poznanski is buried in Lewa 9/1

I have been asked privately how I found reference to the people I was looking for on the Lodz Cemetery website.

The first step I took was to look up the people I am interested in using the JRI Poland database at https://jri-poland.org.  This told me that the people I am researching are buried in the New Lodz Cemetery.  It gave me location of their graves, with a reference to a photo, which I now know is a photograph of the page of the burial ledger used to create the database.  

You can reach the Jewish Lodz Cemetery website at http://www.jewishlodzcemetery.org/EN/Home/Default.aspx.  Along the top of the page you will see various tabs.  One is called Plan of Cemetery.  If you click on that it will show you where in the cemetery a particular section is.  

If you click on the section in the plan, identified mainly with a letter of the alphabet but sometimes numerically as well, it will call up the names of the people buried in the cemetery.  This list is populated to the right of the plan of the cemetery under the heading Kwatera, meaning quarter or I assume in English we're more likely to say section, when referring to a cemetery.  

It then tells you whether the section you have clicked on is on the left (Lewa) or right (Prawa) of the main path through the cemetery.  If I have understood the plan correctly, the pink sections are for women, the purple sections are for men, the orange sections are for men and women and the green sections are for children. 

I hope this helps.  I do not claim to have any expertise on this. I am just happy to share what I have discovered if it will help others with similar research interests.

All the best.

Richard Gilbert
Hertfordshire, England


Robert Murowchick
 

Although they are not organized at all, you can find some 560 images of tombstones in the Lodz New Jewish cemetery in this Wikimedia collection
Wikimedia Commons collection of Lodz cemetery photos
The quality of the photos is terrific, but unfortunately none of the names have been transcribed, so there is no way to search the collection. As a crowd-sourced Wiki site, though, users can log in (by setting up a free Wiki account) and can then edit or add to each image's caption, so those of you who are talented transcribers could make a huge contribution here. 

A map and burial lists of the Lodz Ghetto Cemetery can be found at the following link, but there are no photos
http://www.museumoffamilyhistory.com/ce/ghetto/lodz-ghetto-cemetery.htm
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Robert Murowchick    <robertmurowchick AT gmail.com>
Needham, Massachusetts USA

Researching these family links:
MUROWCHICK/MURAWCHICK/MURAWCZYK etc (David-Gorodok, Belarus, New Jersey, Chicago)
KUNECK/KONIK/KYONIK (Kozhan-Gorodok, Belarus)
EPSTEIN/EPSTINE (Gavish/Gavieze, Liepaja, Latvia)
SEGAL/SIEGEL (Tilsit, Koenigsburg, Germany; Baltimore; Chicago)


mutticampbell@...
 

Frustrating thing with the http://www.museumoffamilyhistory.com/ce/ghetto/lodz-ghetto-cemetery.htm
is by the sites own admission, it is an incomplete list.  The dates seem to stop at the end of 1941  I need a date from July 1942.  The family member is listed on the hospital death records and on his Abmeldung as having died.  I presume he is buried in the Ghetto field and I would love to know the plot number.  Have been to Lodz and want to return.


Thanks


azigraeber@...
 

Several years ago I had someone respond to my request for a photo and they sent one. Since then I've send a handful of request emails, all have gone unanswered. 


Nolan Altman
 

Hi all,

JewishGen's JOWBR database has more than 3,400 burial records for those buried in the Ghetto Sections.  The identifications were made through by the IDF working with the Yad LeZehava Holocaust Research Institute (YZI) Witnesses in Uniform project. The approximately 3,400 records are out of an estimated 44,000 burials.  Please see https://www.jewishgen.org/databases/admin/jowbr/jowbrcontrol_edit.php?id=POL-02840 for more information on this set of records and perform searches from the JOWBR homepage at https://www.jewishgen.org/databases/Cemetery/  These records are not part of the Lodz Cemetery records jointly prepared by JewishGen and JRI-Poland.

Nolan