Do you know if ReMa, Rabbi Moses Isserles had a daughter Miriam?
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On Wed, Aug 18, 2004 at 08:30 AM, "Deborah Glassman" <dgg2020@...> wrote:
The source for generations 1 through 8 is "Otzar haGedolim"; burials mentioned for Krakow are >from Balaban; the descendants of those from generation 9 are >from Otzar haRabbanim
1. Rabbi Israel of Krems (14th century) author of HaGahot Asheri. The story of Unetanna Tokef that we relate at Rosh HaShana with the martyrdom of Amnon of Mainz was passed on through him and attributed by him to Isaac of Vienna's Or Zarua.
2. Haim of Henborg
3. Rabbi Petatiah ASHKENAZI (13__-died by 1405) m. sister of Rabbi Aaron BLUMLEIN(d.1421). Aaron's father is not known but he took his surname >from his mother's name, Blumel or Plumel. Petatiah died while his son was a minor. Petatiah's wife and her brother were murdered March 12, 1421 in Neustadt. Aaron BLUMLEIN is also described as one of the martyrs burned at Enns.
4. Rabbi Israel ISSERLIN II aka Israel MARBURGER (1390-1460) m. Shandelin niece of Rabbi Sholom of Wiener-Neustat (he fl 1380) who was the son of Rabbi Isaac Zakel who was the son of Rabbi Judah Katz of Vienna. Judah Katz is said to be the son-in-law of Rabenu Sholom the maternal grandson of Rabbi Baruch of Rothenburg.
Israel ISSERLIN is the subject of an English language biography in Jewish Encyclopedia (see jewishencyclopedia.com). He was author of Trumat haDarshan. He is thought to have been born at Regensburg, educated in Neustadt at Aaron BLUMLEIN's Yeshiva, moved to Northern Italy then to Marburg in Austria's Styria where he was the leading rabbi >from 1427. In 1440s he returned to Neustadt where he lived until his death in 1460s. He refers to his great-grandfather Israel of Krems, his father Petatiah, his uncle Aaron BLUMLEIN ha Kadosh, in his writings. He wrote over 250 responsa and was considered the preeminent authority of his day.
5. Haim sometimes called Haim of Henborg II. See Note for Petatiah GOLDMAN
6. Petatiah GOLDMAN also called Kokel Goldman (1480s) This is a note >from the writer of this email, Deborah Glassman, not to be blamed on any other source - but it would seem to be worth confirming that Haim of Henborg and Petatiah Goldman were two separate people. Israel ISSERLIN, the Trumat Darshan, lost his father when he was a child. It would be expected that he named his first son for that father Petatiah. The name of a man who died before he was forty was in the seventeenth and eighteenth centuries (not stating that this was necessarily so in the fifteenth century) modified before giving it to an infant. Haim Petatiah would be one of the typical forms found in later years. An original document with both persons mentioned, or Petatiah mentioned after Haim is described as deceased would be conclusive. Petatiah does not appear in the cemetery in Krakow where his son's family is buried. Petatiah is said to be named GOLDMAN >from the name of his wife, mother, or mother-in-law. If he is identical to Haim son of Israel ISSERLIN, then his mother would be Shandelin, but his wife and mother-in-law still unaccounted for.
7. Joseph (sometimes written Joseph ISSERLIN) m.Gittel AUERBACH (she d. 1552, buried Krakow) daughter of Moshe AUERBACH-ISERLIN and of Moshe AUERBACH's wife Mushkat daughter of Israel ISERLIN (presumed to be Israel ISSERLIN the Trumat Darshan). Moshe AUERBACH is said to be the son of Tevele aka David a nephew of Rabbi Sholom of Vienna (it is not clear in my notes if the note re Tevele is >from Otzar Gedolim)
8. Israel aka Isserl Lazars aka Israel ISSERLIN (1490s-died 1553, buried Krakow) m. Dina Malka Shrentzels called Malka (d.1552 buried Krakow) daughter of Eliezer Shrentzels and Drusila/Dreisel Luria - Dreisel d.1560 Krakow). Israel was a leading banker and merchant and he built the synagogue called for his son the REMA synagogue. [Had children including Moses ISSERLES, Isaac Bogatym, Eliezer ISSERLES, Miriam Bella who married Pinchas HOROWITZ].
9. Rabbi Moshe ISSERLES 1520-1572 m1. Golda bat Shalom Shakna of Lublin (her dates 1532-1552, buried Krakow cemetery) m2. dtr of Mordechai Gershon Katz her father called Gershon, her brother Joseph author of Sherit Yosef is frequently referred to as Moses' brother-in-law.
10. Dreisel (Drusila) 1562-1602 m. Simha Bunem MEISELS (d.1624) The Dreisel who is buried in Krakow Cemetery 1560 is Moses ISSERLES's grandmother, not his daughter as sometimes attributed.
Dreisel bat Moshe ISSERLES is clearly the daughter of Ms. Katz, as Moshe's first wife pre-deceased Dreisel's namesake great-grandmother
11. Rabbi Isaac Rabbi Bunems (died in Pinsk?) m. Miss ___ MEISELS bat Abraham b. Joseph MEISELS (Abraham died Heshvan 1600) His wife was also a MEISELS, daughter of Labe MEISELS
12. Rabbi Benjamin Wolf MEISELS aka Rabbi Wolf VILNER brother of Moshe The Mahardura Batra
13.Yentil Leah MEISELS m. Rabbi Shabatei Kohen haSHiK (1621-1662) Shabatei's children referenced in Otzar haRabanim: (The names of the daughters are >from other sources) a daughter Tuba who married Rabbi David KATBEN(she died Nisan 1717 in Zolkiew) a daughter or sister who married Rabbi Isaac Kohen of the EISENSTADT family, no surname used (the father of Meir, Pnei Meor), [in Daat Kedoshim she is called Esther sister of Shabatei]. She is Isaac EISENSTADT's 2nd wife, married in 1656 Vienna. If she is in fact the daughter of Shabatei, she is also attriobuted with the following marriage: a daughter Esther who married Menahem Meinish CHAIT. The CHAITs had a daughter who married Pinchas who in turn was the father-in-law of Rabbi Hananiah Lipman MEISELS a daughter Yochaved who married Rabbi Aaron MAGOZ-ZVI a son Rabbi Moshe KATZ who married ITTINGER
Hope this helps.
Deborah Glassman Elkins Park PA
Researching the rabbinical lines of Khmelnik including all of the Avrum Dovs of Khmelnik, Yakov Yisrael HALPRIN of Khmelnik, Abraham Isaac SOLOMON of Khmelnik; Shlomo Meir Tucker of Kovno guberniya; Rabbi Avrum David ZABARSKA aka TRATSCHER of Ostropol; Rabbi Gedaliah of Linetz.
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