"His name was changed at Ellis Island" #names
Peter Cohen
Smoke pours from the ears of veteran genealogists when they hear “his name was changed by the immigration authorities”. Numerous analyses of the experience of immigrants through Ellis Island and Castle Garden offer convincing evidence that US immigration authorities used ship’s manifests and the landing card pinned to the immigrant’s clothing to determine their name and did not change anyone’s name.
So, why is the “my grandfather told me his name was changed at Ellis Island” so widespread? Either an entire generation of immigrants conspired to lie to their children about how their name changed, or SOMETHING actually happened.
Consider the case of my grandfather, who arrived via Castle Garden in 1891. All I know for sure is that his name was KEMAK on the 1891 manifest and COHEN on his 1895 marriage certificate. The story my uncle told me was “when they asked his name, he gave his full Hebrew name, including HaKohain and they wrote down Cohen.” My uncle would have heard this directly from his father, who was the actual immigrant. So where does the story come from?
A possibility: The day he arrived, my grandfather was 19 years old, alone in a strange country, whose language and customs he did not know. It seems likely to me that, when he left the immigration hall, tired and bewildered, he would have been relieved to find a helpful Yiddish speaker from an immigrant aid society (perhaps HIAS?) outside the building. That person would have given him advice and direction. Part of that advice might have been “no one here can pronounce your name, your name should be _______.” It could have been as simple as the aid society person writing down the immigrant’s name in Roman letters, so that the immigrant would know how to write it. (Note that the stories often say “they wrote down…” Wrote down where? Apparently, immigrants left the customs hall with no documentation from the US government. So, if their name was written down and given to them, someone other than a government agent did the writing.) In my grandfather's case, the name KEMAK was easy enough to pronounce, so that would not be a reason to change it. I lean in the direction of someone writing his name in English, based on his Hebrew name and not his civil name. I do not know who that someone was, but it almost certainly was not a representative of the US government. While we think of our grandparents as worldly and wise, at 19 years old, they would have been neither, and could easily make the false assumption that the HIAS person had some kind of government authority. |
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My Lithuanian ancestors arrived in the 1880s pre-Ellis, and since I
haven't found ship manifests I still don't know where they entered the country, or under what name. However, family lore is that they had to buy papers to travel from Lithuania to the United States, and could not get their own so bought them from someone named Goldberg. Possible? And if so, what became of the paperless Goldbergs left in Lithuania? Curious if anyone has a similar origin story. -- JoAnne Goldberg - Menlo Park, California; GEDmatch M131535
BLOCH, SEGAL, FRIDMAN, KAMINSKY, PLOTNIK/KIN -- LIthuania
GOLDSCHMIDT, HAMMERSCHLAG,HEILBRUNN, REIS(S), EDELMUTH, ROTHSCHILD, SPEI(Y)ER -- Hesse, Germany
COHEN, KAMP, HARFF, FLECK, FRÖHLICH, HAUSMANN, DANIEL -- Rhineland, Germany
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Jules Levin
Re why was this story perpetuated if there is no basis?
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I would counter: Do Italian-Americans, Greek-Americans, German-Americans, Polish-Americans, etc, etc., have the same stories of name changing? Maybe the question is, why did specifically Jewish families tell this bubbe mayse? My own theory is that many immigrants were met at the dock by relatives who already were here and established enough to invite siblings or cousins from the old country. And the first thing they heard was that "in America the family name is ......" All my cousins assured me that "Faivasovich" must have been changed at Ellis Island to Morris. When thru Jewishgen I found out that Faivasovich was on the manifest, our founding greatgrandfather was operating a business in Chicago 2 yrs after arrival with the name Faivasovich, our grandmother was married in 1897 with that maiden name, and ONLY in the census of 1900 hundred did Morris appear and Faivasovich disappear! Still they had believed the bobbe mayse. My own theory is that the change on arrival by immigration officials (half of whom were naturalized citizens themselves and among them spoke 40 languages) was the least embarrassing and simplest to tell the children when they started to ask about their names. Jules Levin On 6/25/2020 9:36 AM, peter.cohen@... wrote:
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Jules Levin
On 6/25/2020 10:49 AM, JoAnne Goldberg wrote:
My Lithuanian ancestors arrived in the 1880s pre-Ellis, and since IIf Tsarist Russia was anything like the USSR, the paperless Goldbergs could easily get replacement papers for the "lost" papers from a local official for the price of a bottle of vodka. Jules Levin Curious |
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Susan&David
Immigration inspectors did not ask an immigrant what his name was. It was already right there on the ship's passenger list and on the immigrants tag.
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One name was changed at Ellis Island. A woman was discovered, dressed as a man and traveling with a man's name. https://www.nypl.org/blog/2013/07/02/name-changes-ellis-island David Rosen Boston, MA On 6/25/2020 1:50 PM, Jules Levin wrote:
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Sally Bruckheimer <sallybruc@...>
"However, family lore is that they had to
buy papers to travel from Lithuania to the United States, and could not get their own so bought them from someone named Goldberg" The thing is, there was no reason that they had to call themselves anything in particular in the US. Until driver's licenses and Social Security, they could be Rachmil Szmelkowicz one day, Hymie Goldberg the next, and Tom Jones the day after. Sally Bruckheimer Princeton, NJ |
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Bob Roudman
Most if not all names were changed by the immigrant after arrival in the
US. Clerks were very careful not to change or modify names. Since the manifest was used as proof of legal arrival immigration and Nat would sometimes go back to the manifest to verify identities. Many times the declaration would mention the name change made by the immigrant. It is largely myth that the clerks changed the names at either Ellis Island or Castle Garden. |
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YaleZuss@...
I'd like to ask people to reserve judgment until I have received the document I requested from NARA. If it is what I expect it to be, it should resolve any serious questions about the "no-involuntary-name-change" meme. People need to understand that the process was nowhere near as pristine as advocates for the meme assume, and once one realizes how messy it was, all kinds of possibilities arise.
Incidentally, in reply to David Rosen, in my conversations with the USCIS Historians' Office, they reported that what happened in the case of Mary Johnson/Frank Woodhull was a change in listing rather than a change in name. The evidence I have establishes that she continued to live as Frank Woodhull.
Yale Zussman
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Feldman, Daniel
It is a fallacy that names were changed at Ellis Island. Immigration personnel used the names on the passenger manifest. They were forbidden to change any name as that might be contributing to fraudulent purposes. Immigrants changed their names after the fact . In New York State for instance, one could change their name merely by adopting the new one. It was legal as long as there was no attempt to commit fraud.
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Art Hoffman <arthh@...>
According to family lore, when my father age 13 and/or uncle Morris age 15 first attended public school, their teacher could not pronounce their last name (Goichmann). The G sounded like "huh" and the ch was guttural sounding. The teacher said she would henceforth call them Hoffman. When they came home that day and told my grandfather. He said OK we are now Hoffman.
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Jules Levin
This "meme" as you call it, is discussed at length in an official
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statement from the Immigration Service, and is available at some .gov web page. I suggest you reconsider your skepticism until you have read it. As a government official document, it does not qualify as a meme, at least as I understood the term when I was publishing articles in the field of semiotics. Jules Levin On 6/25/2020 3:52 PM, YaleZuss via groups.jewishgen.org wrote: I'd like to ask people to reserve judgment until I have received the |
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Jules Levin
Of course! Note the assumptions underlying the claim: the immigration
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officials were ignorant hicks who just didn't get them foreigners [half were themselves naturalized, and understood 40 languages, no doubt including Yiddish]; they were so stupid they risked their jobs to frivolously violate regs to change names; burocratic rules were so casual (compared to the enlightened present) that they could do whatever they wanted to; etc., etc. Our parents pass on mishegas they heard from their parents. Jules Levin On 6/25/2020 4:09 PM, Feldman, Daniel wrote: It is a fallacy that names were changed at Ellis Island. Immigration |
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Diane Jacobs
One of my biggest finds was the actual surname of my maternal grandfather's name and what hooked me on genealogy. They came in 1888 to NYC from Vilna AND I FOUND them using the 6 volume set Migration from the Russian Empire, edited by Ira D. Glazier. It covers the 1880s til 1891. There you can look at all the names and ages of those who indicated they were Russian. It goes by date, name of ship and then listing of passengers. Knowing first names and approx. ages of their children, I was able to find my family of 7 in 1888. It is a wonderful set of books which can be found in large public libraries and universities. Hope this helps. Diane Jacobs Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone -------- Original message -------- From: Jules Levin <ameliede@...> Date: 6/25/20 2:16 PM (GMT-05:00) To: main@... Subject: Re: [JewishGen.org] "His name was changed at Ellis Island" #names My Lithuanian ancestors arrived in the 1880s pre-Ellis, and since IIf Tsarist Russia was anything like the USSR, the paperless Goldbergs could easily get replacement papers for the "lost" papers from a local official for the price of a bottle of vodka. Jules Levin Curious -- Diane Jacobs, Somerset, New Jersey |
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David Shapiro
Perhaps there was a difference between a full name change to a spelling modification. My cousin arrived in the US in the 1930's from Germany. His name was SCHULMANN. He told me that the immigration officer told him that if he wanted he could drop the second 'N', and that to do so later would be complicated. He agreed, and from then on his name was SCHULMAN.
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Susan&David
Your cousin may have changed the spelling at the suggestion of the
immigration officer, but the immigration officer, himself did not do
it.
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David Rosen Boston, MA On 6/26/2020 7:39 AM, David Shapiro
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Perhaps there was a difference between a full name change to a spelling modification. My cousin arrived in the US in the 1930's from Germany. His name was SCHULMANN. He told me that the immigration officer told him that if he wanted he could drop the second 'N', and that to do so later would be complicated. He agreed, and from then on his name was SCHULMAN. |
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ahcbfc@...
Family lore said my great-grandfather Kasdan had his name changed at Ellis Island to Cohen because the clerk could not understand and asked "Are you Jewish?" Makes no sense because Ellis Island had multiple agents with knowledge of multiple languages. A genealogist suggested it might have happened in Amsterdam because they had fewer agents at that departure port. The ship manifest had Cohen, yet, when his wife and children arrived a few years later,they used the name Kasdan.
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Eva Lawrence
This idea of a perfect bureaucracy is just not possible. No doubt it was in the authorities' interests to present a picture of infallibility, in order to scare people into compliance, but but you only have to think of a ship full of excitable and exhausted immigrants, some suffering from cholera, perhaps, many of them filthy from the long voyage in a crowded steamship belching smoke and reliant only on sea-water for washing, to realise that the situation at Ellis Island can't have been as orderly as some of you imagine it, and that the well-trained clerks or the people they were interrogating, may sometimes have suffered from an understandable impatience when the clerks couldn't read the captain's bad hand-writing on the manifest or didn't understand a particularly thick local dialect. The clerks wanted to get home for their supper, the passengers just wanted to reach dry land, so shoulders were shrugged and a name change sanctioned..
I'm not saying that name-changes were the rule, or aren't sometimes just a glib excuse for lack of research, but no-one can be positive that they couldn't have occurred, whether willingly or unwillingly.. -- Eva Lawrence St Albans, UK. |
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Jules Levin
For the record, there was a medical check as well, and people with
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cholera were not admitted. A significant % of passengers were not admitted for health reasons, so passenger liners had an incentive to check for health at ports of entry. Your dramatic script for the arrival scene does not comport with the known facts. Actually, there is a simpler theory to account for the myth: the real weak link in the chain was not the arrival but the departure in Europe. By the way, all ships' manifests still exist: an unreadable entry would not be a hypothetical, but a matter of record. To quote Liza Doolittle: show me! Jules Levin On 6/26/2020 6:02 AM, Eva Lawrence wrote:
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Jules Levin
Notice that your story is not about a change wrought by an official; it
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was merely personal advice, to be followed, or not, as the arriver desired. No one is disputing that such events might have taken place. Perhaps the immigration officer [by the way, half the immigration officers at our southern border have Hispanic surnames] was himself a landsman advising a new former countryman. Jules Levin On 6/26/2020 4:39 AM, David Shapiro wrote:
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jewishgen@...
Eva when the immigrants were called forward in turn they showed their landing card which contained their details including name, manifest page and number on page that had been copied from the original manifest on departure. The entries were then looked up on the appropriate manifest page. They had to confirm some details on the manifest and proceeded. It has been estimated that each immigrant might spend just 30 seconds with the clerk. See https://stevemorse.org/ellis/EllisMythNames.htm
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