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SAM WEISSBERGER - U.S. Social Security Applications and Claims, 1936-2007 #general


גירון
 

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*** a little long post + 2 questions***

My paternal great grandmother's brother Samuel Weiszberger, was born in
what was then the Austro-Hungarian empire on the 10th of October 1878.
My father who drew a family tree of that side - didn't know him.
I found him looking for the BMD of the other people in that tree.
Some time in 2009 my father's second cousin ( from the same side ) said that
this person existed , and he was indeed the brother of my great grandmother
and that he disappeared in the US.
I was looking for him -on and off - ever since.
When I look in the US I usually write the Hungarian WEISZBERGER as
WEISSBERGER and SAMUEL as SAM to get more results.
thinking this was his way to make things easier and more American.
Lately I found in myheritage research part an extract from a record from
: U.S. Social Security Applications and Claims, 1936-2007

It only included the following details:
Name : Sam Weissberger
Type: Claim
Birth: 18th October 1878 Hungary
Claim date: 24th September 1976
Death date: 5th Aug. 1946
Field office address: 11 W42 ST. NYC
Reference no.: 65179247946
Claim type: Death Claim

This raises a few questions:
1. I didn't find any place where I could see the original. DOES ANYONE
KNOW WHERE I COULD SEE IT?
2. The death claim was submitted on 24th September 1976 over 20 years
after the actual death ( 15th July 1946) .I believe this is a transcription
error . What do you think? (The only thing that encouraged me in submitting
a claim is that there was a wife or a child that survived him.)

Thanks
Nava Giron
Israel


A. E. Jordan
 

Nava

You need to get access to Ancestry.com as they have a lot of information on this person.  He was married to Sadie and lived in Manhattan.  He was born in Budapest he says.  Appears he died in July 1946 and is buried in New Jersey at Riverside Cemetery.  His death certificate is on FamilySearch transcribed ... see below

As for the questions you asked the Social Security application and file should be available at the Social Security Administration.  You might have to file under the Freedom of Information Act which might be somewhat time consuming.  The application costs about $25 but I am not sure if you ask for a search for the claim file.

If this is the right person it looks like the wife died three years later and is buried with him.  Use Findagrave.com and search for them at RIverside in Saddlebrook, New Jersey.  No pictures posted.

My guess is that there was a child making a claim against the father's Social Security if in fact a claim was made in the 1970s.

Ancestry by the way shows the claim date as Aug 5, 1946.

Allan Jordan




-----Original Message-----
From: גירון <nava105@...>

It only included the following details:
Name : Sam Weissberger
Type: Claim
Birth: 18th October 1878 Hungary
Claim date: 24th September 1976
Death date: 5th Aug. 1946
Field office address: 11 W42 ST. NYC
Reference no.: 65179247946
Claim type: Death Claim

This raises a few questions:
1. I didn't find any place where I could see the original. DOES ANYONE
KNOW WHERE I COULD SEE IT?
2. The death claim was submitted on 24th September 1976 over 20 years
after the actual death ( 15th July 1946) .I believe this is a transcription
error . What do you think? (The only thing that encouraged me in submitting
a claim is that there was a wife or a child that survived him.)

Thanks
Nava Giron
Israel


Renee Steinig
 

There is a naturalization record on Family Search for a Sam Weissberger born 18 Oct 1878:

According to the record, he was born in H. Rokito, Hungary, and immigrated in 1906. Googling suggests that this place may now be in Slovakia; I couldn't find it in JewishGen's Gazetteer.

A death record of a Samuel Weissberger who died on 15 July 1946 is also on FamilySearch.  According to the record, his parents were David and Sarah.

Nava, do you know your great-grandmother's birth place? Or her parents' names?

Renee

Renee Stern Steinig
Dix Hills NY
genmaven@...

Nava Giron <nava105@...> wrote:‬
 
... Lately I found in myheritage research part an extract from a record from
: U.S. Social Security Applications and Claims, 1936-2007

It only included the following details:
Name : Sam Weissberger
Type: Claim
Birth: 18th October 1878 Hungary
Claim date: 24th September 1976
Death date: 5th Aug. 1946
Field office address: 11 W42 ST. NYC
Reference no.: 65179247946
Claim type: Death Claim

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EdrieAnne Broughton
 

You said; "He was born in Budapest"  If this was a death certificate by an informant or even by Sam himself on numerous documents the town might have been given as Budapest...because that was familiar, while if he was telling the story to someone he might have said, "I was born in the village of _______, near Budapest."  The wife or child or clerk might have only remembered the Budapest part.
 
EdrieAnne Brougton
Vacaville, California


The Becker's Email
 

Familysearch has Sam’s declaration and petition for naturalization.  This gives his place of birth as H. Rokito Hungary.

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-89M8-LKQF?i=300&cc=1999177&personaUrl=%2Fark%3A%2F61903%2F1%3A1%3AQP82-X441

 

 

 

Johanna Becker

Newport, RI

 


Vivian Kahn
 

Rokytov is a village and municipality in Bardejov District in the Prešov Region of north-east Slovakia. It was formerly Homonna-Rokito, Zemplen.
I found birth record in the  JewishGen Hungary Database for WEISSBERGER Samuel born 18 Oct 1878 in Hommona-Rokito, Zemplen.  His parents were WEISZBERGER David and MOSKOVITS Szara/Szure. Rokytov is nowhere near Budapest but Budapest is the only place in Hungary that many Americans can recognize.

Vivian Kahn, Santa Rosa, California
JewishGen Hungarian Research Director