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What was Ginsburg & Klausner, S Fallsburg, NY (Catskills) not listed as hotel #usa


Susan Goldsmith
 

Dear JewishGenners,
 
Does anyone know what Ginsburg & Klausner was in S Fallsburg, NY (Catskills)?  It is not listed as a hotel or bungalow community.  My great grandmother Lena Horowitz gave as her return address, on a 1907 letter, "c/o Ginsburg & Klausner".  She was a baker before emigrating to the US in 1905.
 
Thank you,
Susan Goldsmith
SF Bay Area, CA, USA
jcwsmg@...
 
Researching GOLDSHMIDT, F(P)ILVINSKY, SHLIOMOVICH, GITTES (GADIE,GADYE, GIDUSH, GITES) Seta, Jonava, Kaunas, Adustiskes, Zemaiciu Naumiestes, Keidainiai, Vandziogala, Lithuania
HOROWITZ, DRASNIN (DRASNE) Dauhinava, Belarus; TOBIAS (TOUBES, TOBES, TAUBES) Novyy Swerzhen and Stowbtsy, Belarus; ROZANSKY, BILINSKY, MIRANSKY Iasevichi, Belarus
DAVIS, HAFFNER Botosani, Tomania
WAXMAN (WAKSMAN) Sandomierz, Ostrowiec, Poland
 

 


 



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Susan Goldsmith
San Francisco Bay Area, CA, USA
jcwsmg@...
Researching GOLDSHMIDT, F(P)ILVINSKY, SHLIOMOVICH, GITTES (GADIE,GADYE, GIDUSH, GITES) Seta, Jonava, Kaunas, Adustiskes, Zemaiciu Naumiestes, Keidainiai, Ukmerge, Vandziogala, Lithuania
HOROWITZ, DRASNIN (DRASNE) Dauhinava, Belarus; TOBIAS (TOUBES, TOBES, TAUBES) Novyy Swerzhen and Stowbtsy, Belarus; ROZANSKY, BILINSKY, MIRANSKY Iasevichi, Belarus
DAVIS, HAFFNER Botosani, Romania
WAXMAN (WAKSMAN), KOENIGSBERG Sandomierz, Ostrowiec Poland


Kay Miller
 

I am not sure about this hotel. Do you have a date range for it? My husband's grandfather, Isaac Miller (Isak Mueller) had a "hotel" called the Miller Gap House in Loch Sheldrake that is not listed in any publication that I have seen. I will ask Ivan tomorrow and will get back to you. Where have you looked for references to it? I also see that you have a Horowitz listed as a name you are researching.  Yetta Horowitz was married to Isaac and she cooked in several different hotels in the area, as well as the Miller Gap House. If you don't know, Loch Sheldrake is not too far from South Fallsburg. Do you have a Yetta Horowitz in your tree? Her parents were Michall and Sara (Sore) Horowitz.

Best regards,
Kay Morris Miller


Researching:  LAUFMAN, MALES, BRANT, LYONS, TANNENBAUM, MILLER


avivahpinski@verizon.net
 

Have you checked the website for the Catskill Institute?    This is an organization "to promote research and education on the significance of the Catskills on Jewish Life"  It was founded in 1995 at Brown University.

https://www.brown.edu/Research/Catskills_Institute/story.shtml

The website is replete with information, including extensive lists of hotels and bungalow colonies. 

https://www.brown.edu/Research/Catskills_Institute/hotelsbungalows.shtml

Under Loch Sheldrake, there is listed only "Millers"  Bungalow Colony.    It is possible that there is more archival information available from the Institute.  I recommend exploring the web site for anyone interested in information connected with the Catskills.

Avivah Pinski
near Philadelphia


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Avivah R. Z. Pinski ,  near Philadelphia, USA


piebrand@...
 

Hi. I'm a member of the Local History of Sullivan County, NY group on Facebook, so I put the question to them. The only suggestion that came back was that Ginsburg & Klausner were real estate agents, as there are apparently a lot of transactions for them on Google. Hope that helps!

April French
London, UK
piebrand@...
ZEIKOWITZ: Nemerov/Nemeroff, Podlia Gubernia, Russia (now Nemyriv, Vinnytsia, Ukraine)
ORENTLICH (ORENDLICH, ORENDLICHMAN, ORENDLICHMANN): Mariiampil/Mariyampil, Ukraine (formerly Marynopil, Russia) 
JACKSIER/JACKSON (DZIEKSIER, DZECKCIER, ZECHEIER, JEKSIN, SECHZIN): Strusow, Austria (now Strusiv, Ukraine) & Iwanowka (aka Janow), Austria (now Dolyna, Ukraine)


indsnw@...
 

Hi,

At the end of the nineteenth century and very early twentieth century, there was an effort to settle Jewish farmers in various places, including the Catskills. As supplements to their income, they opened their homes as boarding houses. That became the germ for the later start of the Borscht Belt. Here is a link describing this early time in South Fallsburg. https://thebaronhirschcommunity.org/the-catskills-farming-the-jewish-alps/#more-2661

There is a book, “Jewish Farmers of the Catskills” by Abraham Lavender and Clarence B Steinberg, for further reading.

There were already trains running back and forth to NYC from this area during this time, so the population was not static, rather fluid going back and forth to Lower East Side, Brooklyn, etc.


Amy Cohen


Diane Jacobs
 

In 1901 my great grandfather owned a farm in Corinth NY , just outside Saratoga Springs, and in 1910 he had a farm in Noxamixon Township in Bucks County PA.

Diane Jacobs 




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Subject: Re: [JewishGen.org] What was Ginsburg & Klausner, S Fallsburg, NY (Catskills) not listed as hotel #usa

Hi,

At the end of the nineteenth century and very early twentieth century, there was an effort to settle Jewish farmers in various places, including the Catskills. As supplements to their income, they opened their homes as boarding houses. That became the germ for the later start of the Borscht Belt. Here is a link describing this early time in South Fallsburg. https://thebaronhirschcommunity.org/the-catskills-farming-the-jewish-alps/#more-2661

There is a book, “Jewish Farmers of the Catskills” by Abraham Lavender and Clarence B Steinberg, for further reading.

There were already trains running back and forth to NYC from this area during this time, so the population was not static, rather fluid going back and forth to Lower East Side, Brooklyn, etc.


Amy Cohen
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Diane Jacobs, Somerset, New Jersey


Carol Rubin
 

My husband’s paternal grandmother’s parents had either a boardinghouse or a small  hotel called the Belvedere in S Fallsburg NY around early to mid 1930s. Only info I’ve been able to find based on an address from the NY census of 1930 or 1935 is that it might later have become some kind of yoga retreat. I think I tried writing to a historian for the town but never got a response. Any ideas on where I might find any photos from that time?

Carol Rubin


indsnw@...
 

The Belvedere Hotel was on Budd Road in Woodbourne, NY, (several miles from South Fallsburg). https://www.brown.edu/Research/Catskills_Institute/hotelsbungalows.shtml
You can google for images of the Belvedere

It later became the Haywire Ranch, (1960’s) where you could rent horses for trail rides. It was owned by the Pepper family. https://www.legacy.com/obituaries/recordonline/obituary.aspx?n=joan-pepper-cauthers&pid=96434084&fhid=5760

After that it became and remains a yoga retreat https://sivanandayogaranch.org/

Amy Cohen 


Ellen Slotoroff Zyroff
 

For specific hotels, or other information, 

You might try Phil Brown, who turned his own passion, research, and Catskill Hotel memories conferences into a full-fleged institute documenting and archiving an important part of the Jewish experience in the U.S. 

1 - Contact Catskills Institute at Brown University, started and fun by faculty member, Phil Brown.

https://www.brown.edu/Research/Catskills_Institute/index.shtml
 
2 -  There are also lots of books and reminisences with compendia and articles, scholarly and otherwise.  

Two phrases that bring up some books at Amazon.com.   Research "Catskill hotels."  search "Borscht Belt."    

These hotels, large and small and in between, outgrowths of the first generation "kuchaleinin," ("cook alone, i.e. book one's own food, kashrut required, aka "rooming houses.") provided fabulous, fun vacations, with sports, amazing food, goo air, safe hiking, boatin, tenniss, evening comediens, singers, jugglers, etc, children's day camps. 

They served as an important, informal, but important institution for marriageable age singles looking for a suitable match.  Most of these singles were first generation Americans.   Even if on any given trip, one didn't "meet someone," one still had a great vacation - whether summer or winter.  

These hotels played a big role in assuring Jewish continuity for several generations of U.S. Jews,  a role known to families along the East Coast and even the Midwest.     

For example:
My parents met at Shawanga Lodge,  My mom from Manhattan/Bronx, my dad from Atlantic City, NJ.
My uncle and aunt also met at Shawanga Lodge.  My aunt from Brooklyn, NY.
My other uncle and aunt met at the Concord.  This aunt from New Rochelle, NY. 

And I'm adding the following set of links for the fun of it - to spark the personal memories many of us treasure and to share with others
"what was." 
ezyroff@...


On Sunday, September 6, 2020, 11:46:47 AM PDT, Carol Rubin <evans1035@...> wrote:


My husband’s paternal grandmother’s parents had either a boardinghouse or a small  hotel called the Belvedere in S Fallsburg NY around early to mid 1930s. Only info I’ve been able to find based on an address from the NY census of 1930 or 1935 is that it might later have become some kind of yoga retreat. I think I tried writing to a historian for the town but never got a response. Any ideas on where I might find any photos from that time?

Carol Rubin

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ZOLOTOROV (Chernigov, Ukraine; Kiev, Ukraine);
SLOTOROFF (Kiev, Ukraine)
CHARKOVSKY or SHARKOVSKY(Ukraine);
LEVINE (Ukraine and Minsk, Belarus);
GLUSKIN (Ukraine)
LIMON (Berestechko, Volynia, Ukraine)
TESLER (Horochiv, Volynia, Ukraine)
ZYRO (Zabolativ, Ukraine) 
TAU (Zalolativ, Ukraine)
PISTERMAN (Ukraine)
ROTH / ROT (Ataki, Bessarabia, Moldova)
BLAUSTEIN (Chernigov, Ukraine or Minsk, Belarus)


Ellen
 

On Sun, Sep 6, 2020 at 02:46 PM, Carol Rubin wrote:
My husband’s paternal grandmother’s parents had either a boardinghouse or a small  hotel called the Belvedere in S Fallsburg NY around early to mid 1930s. Only info I’ve been able to find based on an address from the NY census of 1930 or 1935 is that it might later have become some kind of yoga retreat. I think I tried writing to a historian for the town but never got a response. Any ideas on where I might find any photos from that time?
In addition to the links and contacts already suggested, you could also try:

Sullivan County, NY Historical Society:  http://www.scnyhistory.org/

The website fultonhistory.com, which has an extensive online library of newspapers from around New York State, including the Sullivan County Record:  https://www.fultonhistory.com/

This site provides a direct link to the Sullivan County Record archives, and may be easier to search (see "Search This Title" on the right hand side):  https://nyshistoricnewspapers.org/lccn/sn83031330/

Ellen Morosoff Pemrick
Saratoga County, NY
 
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Researching WEISSMAN/VAYSMAN (Ostropol, Ukraine); MOROZ and ESTRIN/ESTERKIN (Shklov & Bykhov, Belarus); LESSER/LESZEROVITZ, MAIMAN, and BARNETT/BEINHART/BERNHART (Lithuania/Latvia); and ROSENSWEIG/ROSENZWEIG, KIRSCHEN, and SCHWARTZ (Botosani, Romania)


avivahpinski@verizon.net
 

A very extensive web site about the Catskills is the following:

https://www.brown.edu/Research/Catskills_Institute/

There is a list of hotels and bungalows for each town.  I did not see the Belveder listed under Fallsburg/So. Fallsburg, but I suggest that you explore the web site for yourself - it is also possible that it was in another nearby town. 

For anyone interested in this topic, they are still collecting photos, information, etc. 
 
Avivah R. Z. Pinski ,  near Philadelphia, USA