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Genealogy Software For Family Trees #general


Teewinot
 

Hi Cousins,

I've decided it's time I got some software to make my family tree, but
there are so many to choose from, it's giving me a headache! So I
thought I'd ask for recommendations.

Here is what I need:

1. A program that lets me include every family member (siblings;
cousins; aunts and uncles; 1st, 2nd, etc. marriages; etc.) in one giant
family tree.

2. A program that lets me enter birth, marriage, death info that is
printed right on the tree itself, so I don't have to refer to any other
documents.

3. A program that will let me print out this tree, even if it means
taping together a whole bunch of sheets, and will also allow me to make
the tree into a PDF file, so I can share it via email.

4. A program that is a true family tree, not just sheets listing
people. (A cousin gave me a printout like that, and it's way too hard
to follow.)

5. The program must be compatible with Windows 10.

I am not interested in anything else. I don't care if the program has
search the Internet features or not. I don't care if it's capable of
uploading or downloading data. I just need to be able to consolidate
all the hand-drawn trees and other papers I have into one coherent tree.

Thank you!
Jeri Friedman
Port Saint Lucie, Florida
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RESEARCHING: FRIEDMAN, MILLER, BERKOWITZ (Grodno,
Poland/Russia/Belarus); GEIST (?,Russia); GLICKMAN, KLUGMAN, STURMAN,
KAPLAN, ROTENBERG (Bilgoraj, Lublin, Poland/Russia); LIEB/LEIBOWITZ,
BLAU (Jassy/Iasi, Romania); GALINSKY, GELLIS (Suwalki, Poland/Russia);
KRASNOPOLSKY, SILBERMAN/SILVERMAN (Krasnopol, Poland/Russia)
KOPCIANSKY (?, Poland/Russia); GOLDSTEIN, SCHRAGER (?, Romania);
CYRULNIK (Suwalki, Poland/Russia and Kalvarija, Lithuania)

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Dahn Cukier
 

Jeri,

You forgot to inform us if you are computer comfortable.
Do you know how to create backup and can you create
the data on your own computer?

If so, I suggest Brother's Keeper for almost everything
you ask for.

It has it's own database.
There are over 100 types of data you can enter, with sources and notes.
You can add photos and documents as linked files, I think the
author told there is no known limit, I asked when I got to 20 documents
and wanted to know if I should add only photos or if I can link in
census, ellis island, draft cards, etc. You can add in any file type,
but I have not looked how to open each within BK, I open PDF with
Adobe.

There is a dedicated field for name variations, Hebrew,
nicknames, and many more. I add names in Hebrew without problems.

GED files can be exported and imported. I think you can split the database
by descendants, but I have not tried.

My "tree" has on my mother's side both her families, on
my father's side, both his parents, both my grandmother's parents
and a family that is close to me but not related, 2 brothers married
2 sisters. A total of 6 families and some small families that I added later.

You can print reports with or without duplicates (cousins that married).

I do not like the way the family tree prints page by page.
Until about 2000, you could use dot matrix printer and
print length wise on continuous paper. I now use a program
called "Agelong Tree" to produce family trees. I am hardware
limited to about 20 meters, (60+ feet) due to limitations of
hardware/software. I print the file at architect offices on plotters.

Anyone who wants to see a sample of the tree output I can send
a file with only dates and initials of 868K .

Dani



When you start to read readin,
how do you know the fellow that
wrote the readin,
wrote the readin right?

Festus Hagen
Long Branch Saloon
Dodge City, Kansas
(Gunsmoke)


On Tuesday, July 28, 2020, 06:37:55 PM GMT+3, Teewinot <teewinot13@...> wrote:


Hi Cousins,

I've decided it's time I got some software to make my family tree, but
there are so many to choose from, it's giving me a headache! So I
thought I'd ask for recommendations.

Here is what I need:

1. A program that lets me include every family member (siblings;
cousins; aunts and uncles; 1st, 2nd, etc. marriages; etc.) in one giant
family tree.

2. A program that lets me enter birth, marriage, death info that is
printed right on the tree itself, so I don't have to refer to any other
documents.

3. A program that will let me print out this tree, even if it means
taping together a whole bunch of sheets, and will also allow me to make
the tree into a PDF file, so I can share it via email.

4. A program that is a true family tree, not just sheets listing
people. (A cousin gave me a printout like that, and it's way too hard
to follow.)

5. The program must be compatible with Windows 10.

I am not interested in anything else. I don't care if the program has
search the Internet features or not. I don't care if it's capable of
uploading or downloading data. I just need to be able to consolidate
all the hand-drawn trees and other papers I have into one coherent tree.

Thank you!
Jeri Friedman
Port Saint Lucie, Florida
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~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
RESEARCHING: FRIEDMAN, MILLER, BERKOWITZ (Grodno,
Poland/Russia/Belarus); GEIST (?,Russia); GLICKMAN, KLUGMAN, STURMAN,
KAPLAN, ROTENBERG (Bilgoraj, Lublin, Poland/Russia); LIEB/LEIBOWITZ,
BLAU (Jassy/Iasi, Romania); GALINSKY, GELLIS (Suwalki, Poland/Russia);
KRASNOPOLSKY, SILBERMAN/SILVERMAN (Krasnopol, Poland/Russia)
KOPCIANSKY (?, Poland/Russia); GOLDSTEIN, SCHRAGER (?, Romania);
CYRULNIK (Suwalki, Poland/Russia and Kalvarija, Lithuania)

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Max Heffler
 

Now if I could just sync my Brother’s Keeper (my master database) with my one tree on geni, it would be great!

 

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Subject: Re: [JewishGen.org] Genealogy Software For Family Trees #General

 

Jeri,

You forgot to inform us if you are computer comfortable.
Do you know how to create backup and can you create
the data on your own computer?

If so, I suggest Brother's Keeper for almost everything
you ask for.



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davide@...
 

Hi Jeri,
I would suggest using "GenoPro", very easy to use and easily downloadable from the internet. As far as I see from having using it for many years, I can reply to your questions as follows:
1. A program that lets me include every family member (siblings;
cousins; aunts and uncles; 1st, 2nd, etc. marriages; etc.) in one giant
family tree.
It does; virtually no limit to number of family members (the only limit might be your own ability to orientate yourself among a huge number of members)

2. A program that lets me enter birth, marriage, death info that is
printed right on the tree itself, so I don't have to refer to any other
documents.
It does; you also can enter many more personal details (from my experience, many more than you actually can know about each person)

3. A program that will let me print out this tree, even if it means
taping together a whole bunch of sheets, and will also allow me to make
the tree into a PDF file, so I can share it via email.
It does. If its size is large enough to exceed an A4/A3 paper sheet, you can save the tree as an image file and later print the whole tree/image on a plotter

4. A program that is a true family tree, not just sheets listing
people. (A cousin gave me a printout like that, and it's way too hard
to follow.)
It is. The visual aspect of your family tree is a true... tree. As you progressively build it you can re-arrange its aspect by modifying/moving people among it and maintaining the relative relationships

5. The program must be compatible with Windows 10.
It is. I use it on a Win10 PC.

All the best,
Davide


 

Family Tree Maker does all of this. (Plus syncs with Ancestry but you said you didn't care.) I have a number of trees, two main ones and about a half dozen research trees.

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Jeff Goldner
Researching Goldner, Singer, Neuman, Braun, Schwartz, Reichfeld (Hungary/Slovakia); Adler, Roth, Ader (Galicia); Soltz/Shultz (Vitebsk, maybe Lithuania)


Teewinot
 

Hi Dani,

You forgot to inform us if you are computer comfortable.
Do you know how to create backup and can you create
the data on your own computer?
You know, I didn't even think about that! I've been using computers
since the days of bulletin boards (before the Internet) and MS DOS
(before Windows), so it just never crosses my mind. Yeah, I'm fine with
it all.

If so, I suggest Brother's Keeper for almost everything
you ask for.
That sounds good.

It has it's own database.
There are over 100 types of data you can enter, with sources and notes.
You can add photos and documents as linked files, I think the
author told there is no known limit, I asked when I got to 20 documents
and wanted to know if I should add only photos or if I can link in
census, ellis island, draft cards, etc. You can add in any file type,
but I have not looked how to open each within BK, I open PDF with
Adobe.
Wow. That certainly would be helpful. I use Adobe for PDF files, too.

There is a dedicated field for name variations, Hebrew,
nicknames, and many more. I add names in Hebrew without problems.
That's great. There were a lot of name changes and nicknames in my family.

GED files can be exported and imported. I think you can split the database
by descendants, but I have not tried.

My "tree" has on my mother's side both her families, on
my father's side, both his parents, both my grandmother's parents
and a family that is close to me but not related, 2 brothers married
2 sisters. A total of 6 families and some small families that I added later.

You can print reports with or without duplicates (cousins that married).
All that sounds good.

I do not like the way the family tree prints page by page.
Until about 2000, you could use dot matrix printer and
print length wise on continuous paper. I now use a program
called "Agelong Tree" to produce family trees. I am hardware
limited to about 20 meters, (60+ feet) due to limitations of
hardware/software. I print the file at architect offices on plotters.
For some things, I really miss the old dot matrix printers and
continuous feed paper. That's a great idea for printing!

Anyone who wants to see a sample of the tree output I can send
a file with only dates and initials of 868K .
I'd love to see it!

Thanks so much,
Jeri

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Teewinot
 

Hi Davide,

I would suggest using "GenoPro", very easy to use and easily
downloadable from the internet. As far as I see from having using it for
many years, I can reply to your questions as follows:
I've never heard of this program, but I'm not surprised, because there
are so many out there.

It does; virtually no limit to number of family members (the only limit
might be your own ability to orientate yourself among a huge number of
members)
That sounds great. That's why I need the software! I'm drowning in
relatives and some even have the same given and surnames!

It does; you also can enter many more personal details (from my
experience, many more than you actually can know about each person)
That's even better. It would help me to be able to include occupations,
too.

It does. If its size is large enough to exceed an A4/A3 paper sheet, you
can save the tree as an image file and later print the whole tree/image
on a plotter
That's probably what I'd have to do once I got everyone on there. It
will be big!

It is. The visual aspect of your family tree is a true... tree. As you
progressively build it you can re-arrange its aspect by modifying/moving
people among it and maintaining the relative relationships
Oh good! That is the easiest format for me to follow. Nice to know you
can shift things around without having to start over.
It is. I use it on a Win10 PC.
Perfect! I will definitely take a good look at this program. Thanks so
much for sharing your experience and information.

Take Care,
Jeri

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Chuck Weinstein
 

For those who will be attending the IAJGS Conference on Jewish Genealogy, I am presenting a talk on "How to Choose a Family Tree Software".  I discuss the criteria to consider and review several of the popular packages on the market (including a freeware product). I do cover both Windows and Mac versions.

Chuck Weinstein
chuck1@...


avivahpinski@verizon.net
 

I have been using Family Tree Maker since at least 2011, when it was still on 3.5" disks!   It does everything that you are are asking for and more.
I started Family Tree Maker with names and dates, and over the years have been adding to this basic information. 

You can collect and enter all kinds of information for every entry - not just vital statistics. When putting in vital statistics you can include locations and other information.  You can also add in data for things like Bar Mitzvah info, etc. There is a place for personal notes and research notes for each entry and that's where I copy in documents that I have, family stories,  etc.
You can also attach photos to the individuals on the tree and you can document the sources for the information.  You can have a number of separate trees, if you wish.

When you want to "publish" the family tree, you have a choice of formats and fonts, and you can decide how many generations you want to include in the tree and what information you want to include on the tree (birth and death date, other dates, etc).  I print out a huge tree of many pages and paste it together.  Sometimes I print it with name, birth date and death date, sometimes I add the locations for birth and death.  I color code the tree for male and female.

Aside from the choice of publishing the family tree, you can also publish reports. The output for reports also gives a choice of different options and what information to include.  I find the reports useful when I am gathering information from other people and want an informational printout to work from.    There is also a report feature to show relationships -  if you put in someone's name, it will list everyone on the tree and their relationship to the individual - i.e. first cousin once removed, etc.

The program will handle a number of separate trees and there are other nice options for publications.  For example, for a close Friend's 80th birthday, i got the family information from his cousin.  The friend has been involved in Bonsai growing for many years. Using the info from his cousin,  I produced a family tree, in color, with a Bonsai Tree in the background that I was able to frame. 

As much as I noted above, I know that I have not used all of the features of Family Tree Maker and am always learning.  The program is regularly updated.


Hope this is of help to you.  Good luck!


Avivah R. Z. Pinski
near Philadelphia, USA . Researching: Zuchman in Sarnaki, Karczew, Warsaw Poland; Rubinsztejn in Sarnaki, Poland;
Reznik in Drohiczyn, Siemiatische, Poland; Sondak in Vitebsk, Belarus and Rehitza, Latvia; Aginsky and Slonimsky in Minsk;
Kopekin & Rifczes in Lemberg, Vienna, Polatsk, & Besonkovich; Familiant & Koifman in Bessarabia and Ukraine; Fehl in Mikulov, Vienna
 

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Max Heffler
 

I have been using Brother’s Keeper since DOS before Windows and it has come a long way and the author is very responsive. And being shareware, it cost nothing to realize the value and quickly registered it and have paid negligible for updates since

 

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To: main@...
Subject: Re: [JewishGen.org] Genealogy Software For Family Trees #General

 

Hi Dani,

You forgot to inform us if you are computer comfortable.
Do you know how to create backup and can you create
the data on your own computer?

You know, I didn't even think about that! I've been using computers
since the days of bulletin boards (before the Internet) and MS DOS
(before Windows), so it just never crosses my mind. Yeah, I'm fine with
it all.

If so, I suggest Brother's Keeper for almost everything
you ask for.

That sounds good.


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janenns@...
 

Chuck, I am interested in your topic and will be at the virtual conference. Which day and time is your software talk?
Thank you.
Jan Enns


Chuck Weinstein
 

My talk is one of the library talks.  It is available on demand.

Chuck Weinstein


Awesome Properties
 

Hi,
Do any of the family tree programs mentioned here work with Hebrew?
Rachel


Dahn Cukier
 

Brother's Keeper permits names in Hebrew.
I know Hebrew can be used in comments but have not tried
using Hebrew dates in the date field.

Hebrew in GED files can be loaded into Agelong Tree. I do
not use Agelong Tree to record information, only to
produce tree diagram and Hebrew prints fine.

If you want Hebrew windows as titles, pull-downs
names of reports, options, etc. BK does have a number
of other languages, but not Hebrew.

If you're in Israel, send me a note and I can speak with you by phone.

Dani

When you start to read readin,
how do you know the fellow that
wrote the readin,
wrote the readin right?

Festus Hagen
Long Branch Saloon
Dodge City, Kansas
(Gunsmoke)


On Friday, July 31, 2020, 04:06:19 PM GMT+3, <1awesomeproperties@...> wrote:


Hi,
Do any of the family tree programs mentioned here work with Hebrew?
Rachel