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NYC Municipal Death Records Archive #usa


A. E. Jordan
 




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>>>From: June Genis

>>>I have been unable to get the death certificate for my father who died in Dec 1949.  


You would have no problem request his death certificate from the New York City Department of Health.  A daughter of course has total rights to a parents' certificate.  Assuming you have a different family name than his would will be required to provide proof of the relationship but the Health Department rules permit children to have parents' certificates.  The question of course would be if you are certain he died within the boundaries of New York City. Death certificates are filed where the person died regardless of where they called home. 

Allan Jordan'


June Genis
 

Thanks for this.  I have been unable to get the death certificate for my father who died in Dec 1949.  Most of the Vital Records retrieval data files seem to be labeled as before 1940 or after 1949.  I was beginning to think that 1949 had just been lost.  If this suit succeeds perhaps I will now be able to get it.

June
Hemet, CA


A. E. Jordan
 

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From: Adam Cherson <adam.cherson@...>
One more question: is there an index of NYC Death Certificates for the years 1949-1968 (or any sub-period within that time frame)?

Currently only the limited things you find online at Ancestry for example.  Can try looking for obits in The New York Times or other newspapers as a substitute.

The index existed in paper form at the NY Public Library but the Health Department actually went to the library and physically demanded the return of the index saying it was a privacy issue.  The library had been resisting requests for a while hence they went there and took possession of the books!

Allan Jordan


David Oseas
 

Adam,

Reclaim the Records is working on getting the info released to the public.

In the mean time, Ancestry has an index for 1949-1965, based on VitalSearch:  https://www.ancestry.com/search/collections/61461/

Regards,
David Oseas


Adam Cherson
 

Thank you Allan for the thorough and entertaining information. One more question: is there an index of NYC Death Certificates for the years 1949-1968 (or any sub-period within that time frame)? Thanks in advance.


Adam Cherson
 

Thanks to all for the leads. It seems access to NYC DCs from 1949-1968 is in the courts since 2019. I just donated $25 to the cause. This is a travesty for NYC which is way behind the rest of NY State and many other states on this issue. I wonder if under the current regulations the Health Department would release to me a DC for my 3rd cousin, once removed who died in 1949? This event occurred 71 years ago. Ah well, on to more fruitful pastures..


A. E. Jordan
 

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From: Adam Cherson <adam.cherson@...>
What is the status of the 1949 records, which I believe are now public records due to the passage of time. Are they available on microfilm at the NYC Municipal Archive?

The New York Health Department lives by its own rules so no they are not available.  In theory births over 100 years should also be public but the Health Department simply does not follow the rules.  For example if you can prove a person is dead the Health Department under its own rules should release the birth certificate.  I was looking for a child born in 1910 and died three years later in an accident.  I took the Health Department the death certificate requesting the birth certificate and repeatedly they kept asking me, "Are you the child's father?"  I finally pointed out to the clerk if in 2018 I was the father of a child born in 1910 we would have a much bigger story to talk about ....even the clerk stopped reading the rule book and thought about what she was asking and started to laugh.  They never did find the birth certificate for me.

Allan Jordan




A. E. Jordan
 

From: Barbara Ellman <ellmanb@...>
All records not identified on the Municipal Archives site are still held by the Health Department:
 

Marriage Licenses after 1949

 



This is incorrect information.  Marriage licenses were and still are issued by the City Clerk in New York City at the Marriage Bureau.  They hold the licenses from 1950 to the current day. 

Any license over 50 years is public record and anyone can buy a copy.  There is no self service at the Marriage Bureau.  You can not go there and view the records.  You can buy them in person (in normal times) or mail order.  The fee is $15 in person and it includes a limited search if you do not have all the details.

If you want copies it makes more sense to check the online index to get the date or certificate numbers first.

Licenses that were less than 50 years are available to the people named on the certificate as well as other people.  Read the Marriage Bureau's information as to the process for ordering the newer certificates.

Allan Jordan


Debra Braverman
 

Marriage licenses 1950 on are held by the City Clerk and are public after 50 years.
 
Debra Braverman
 


Barbara Ellman
 

All records not identified on the Municipal Archives site are still held by the Health Department:
 
Births after 1909
Marriages certificates after 1937
Marriage Licenses after 1949
Deaths after 1948
 
Many of the indexes have been made available thanks to Reclaim the Records.  But actual documents are only available through the restrictive Health Department.

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Barbara Ellman

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Barbara Ellman
Secaucus NJ USA
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ELIAS SAVADA
 

Check out https://www.reclaimtherecords.org/records-request/24/
for the best information on this issue.

Eli Savada
Bethesda MD
esavada@...


Adam Cherson
 

Dear Researchers,

I have spent many an hour delving into these records through 1948 and found many gems, and now I have a question about 1949. What is the status of the 1949 records, which I believe are now public records due to the passage of time. Are they available on microfilm at the NYC Municipal Archive? Thanks for the guidance.

Adam Cherson
NY, NY