Wedding between Sadie /SarahZiff and Charlie Abrams in Manchester? #unitedkingdom

Lesley Simpson

I am writing a book about my grandfather Lewis Ziff born in 1902 in Edinburgh. His sister Sarah Ziff,  born 1898 in Edinburgh nicknamed Sadie married the British amatuer golf champion Charlie Abrams and I am trying to find out when and where the wedding was. My grandmother  Manchester Cissie Marks (born in Manchester)  met my grandfather Lewis Ziff at this wedding and they travelled to Canada where they were married in 1930 in Toronto.
Lesley Simpson
Department of Humanities
Israel and Golda Koschitzky Centre for Jewish Studies
York University 

Sherri Bobish


Try searching British newspapers from that time, especially local papers from where Charlie Abrams lived.  There may have been an article about the wedding.

Many old newspapers are digitized and searchable on-line.


Sherri Bobish
Princeton, NJ

Jill Whitehead

The obvious solution is the ScotlandsPeople website which has the Scottish BMD and census records. The marriages go up to the 1930's I think. 

I have Edinburgh ancestors and Manchester Abrams ancestors but they are not the same Abrams ones. I think there was a showbiz journalist for the British newspapers in the 1960's whose surname was Ziff, and he may have written for something like the Daily Mail.  

Jill Whitehead, Surrey


Hi Lesley,
   Here is the marriage document. My maternal grandfather's sister's daughter married Barney Ziff who I think is related to your Ziff and Marks families. I have many more documents. Perhaps we can correspond privately and compare notes.
Best wishes,
Larry Bassist
Springville, Utah, USA