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Aramaic Translation Help! #translation


yitschok@...
 

In addition to the above translations, I would add that the Bride's father was deceased, the missing word in Dr. Ash's translation before the father's name is "the deceased" Reb Gutman...

I agree with Mr. Shapiro's reading of the year as 5662.


btkerman@...
 

The place of the marriage looks like it says "the city Hamel" and judging from the Cyrillic print at the bottom of the paper (which I don't read) I would assume the general area is either Russia or Ukraine. Searching on the townfinder you find Homyel Belarus which seems most likely.
https://www.jewishgen.org/Communities/community.php?usbgn=-1943559

Binyamin Kerman
Baltimore MD


David Shapiro
 

The city was Homel. The date was Tues. Sivan 12. The year is not completely clear, i.e. the decade, but I think it was 5662 which was June 17, 1902. Definitely not 5682 when Sivan 12 fell on a Thursday. (And not 5683 when Sivan 12 when was Sunday, and Sivan 13 was Monday).
David Shapiro
Jerusalem


andrewkopkin@...
 

A big 'thank you' to all of you who have replied here or who have emailed me privately.

I believe I have individually thanked very one - but wanted to be sure by sending this too!


Rodney Eisfelder
 

Andrew,
For a description of the boilerplate text of a traditional Ketubah, and the variations that are needed for various cases (divorced women, widows, converts etc, father living or not living), I usually consult https://www.caspicards.com/info-for-rabbis/
The location of the wedding (which I have not deciphered) is at the left hand end of the second line on your example.
I hope this helps,
Rodney Eisfelder
Melbourne, Australia


Dr.Josef ASH
 

o yes. This is Aramic.
the document is called "KeTUBA" - Marriage agreement.

"on Tuesday 13 of Siwan (Hebrew calendar month ) year 5683 (~May-June1923)
the groom Yosef Khaim son of reb (Mr) Shim'on Eliahu told to Bluma Dvora daughter of ... reb GUTMAN blessed memory...,"
And then - long text he promises that he will do for her.....
It is read loudly during the wedding.
Her mother keeps the ketuba.
I don't think many Israelies can translate it today without the dictionary. 
Sure you can find it in internet, but the important information I could read as it is written in Hebrew.
Josef ASH


andrewkopkin@...
 

Thank you and Shalom Malka!

That is my great grandfather's name: Yosef Haim ben Shimon Eliyahou [Alterman].


Malka
 

 

Genners,

 

It is a Ktuba (Marriage contract) and it is indeed in Aramaic.  I could only make out the name of the groom – Yosef Haim son of Aliyahu.  Shalom, Malka Chosnek


Kalman Appel
 

The text is indeed Aramaic.  The document is a traditional ketubah or marriage contract between a Jewish husband and wife.  Google “ketubah text translation” and look for a traditional translation, which will give you the printed parts of the document text.
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andrewkopkin@...
 

Hello:

I would very much appreciate any help someone might be able to give me with translating the attached document - which I am reliably informed is in Aramaic.

Thank you and best wishes to all,

Andrew Kopkin