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finding obituaries #general


Trudy Barch
 

Hello,

 

Does anyone know when USA obituaries began in newspapers?  Other than Legacy are there any other sites where I should be looking for ‘older’ (1930s-1940s) ones?

Also, is their anything similar for European deaths – past and current?

 

Thank you,    Trudy Barch,  Florida


Barbara Ellman
 

US newspapers have included obituaries from the 1600s.  These increased as the size of
newspapers grew.
 
My experience is that obits or paid announcements of death on our immigrant relatives did not begin to appear until the deceased had some wealth, generally in the late 1930s.  Even one of my wealthy great-uncles who died in 1934 did not have an obit, but I did find information on the filing of his will for probate.
 
Where to look depends on where the relatives lived and what newspapers have been digitized.  Newspapers.com, NewspaperArchives.com, Ancestry (usually refers to Newspaper.com).  These do not include many NY area newspapers in which I'm most interested.  NYTimes is searchable for the life of the newspaper or is available through
ProQuest (often available at libraries).  Many universities have access to digitized newspapers.  Library of Congress has Chronicling America for searchable newspapers.  You might get a more direct response if you pose the areas that you are researching in the US.
 
Good luck
--
Barbara Ellman

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Barbara Ellman
Secaucus NJ USA
HASSMAN, SONENTHAL, DAUERMAN, LUCHS - Drohobycz, Ukraine
HIRSCHHORN, GOLDSTEIN, BUCHWALD - Dolyna, Ukraine
ELLMAN, COIRA, MAIDMAN - Minkovtsy, Ukraine
KAGLE, FASS - Ulanow, Poland


Mary Henderson
 

Hi, Trudy!

Newspapers.com is a good resource for obituaries - but it's a paid subscription site.

Mary Henderson


Mary Henderson
Genetic Genealogy Research, LLC
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On Tue, Sep 8, 2020 at 8:49 AM Trudy Barch <cousintrudy@...> wrote:

Hello,

 

Does anyone know when USA obituaries began in newspapers?  Other than Legacy are there any other sites where I should be looking for ‘older’ (1930s-1940s) ones?

Also, is their anything similar for European deaths – past and current?

 

Thank you,    Trudy Barch,  Florida


Beth Erez
 

I have found some obituaries in https://fultonhistory.com/fulton.html

Beth Erez
Hod Hasharon, Israel


Ellen
 

Trudy,

As Barbara said, where to look for obituaries depends a lot on where your relatives lived.  I know of several websites that provide access to upstate New York newspapers, for example. 

This website provides links to newspapers by state:  https://www.theancestorhunt.com/newspaper-research-links.html  It is probably not complete, but it's a good starting point.

Ellen Morosoff Pemrick
Saratoga County, NY 
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Researching WEISSMAN/VAYSMAN (Ostropol, Ukraine); MOROZ and ESTRIN/ESTERKIN (Shklov & Bykhov, Belarus); LESSER/LESZEROVITZ, MAIMAN, and BARNETT/BEINHART/BERNHART (Lithuania/Latvia); and ROSENSWEIG/ROSENZWEIG, KIRSCHEN, and SCHWARTZ (Botosani, Romania)


grayps@...
 

I have good luck with genealogybank.com - a subscription service.  It looks for ANY mention of a name, so I can find wedding announcements and interesting articles about people.
--

Susan Gray, Chicago
Searching:

 -FELDSTEIN / FELDSZTAJN / FELTON / FELTYN etc.; GOLDBERG; WEINSTEIN / WEINSZTEIN etc. from Warsaw, Lutsk, Kamenets Podolskiy, Kholm.
-APPLE / APPEL / APEL etc; TAUB; LINEAL / LINIAL; KLEIN from Burshtyn, Rogatin, Sarniki, Putyatinsy, Dem'yanov, Solova.
-PAILET / PEYLET / PAILED / PEJLET etc; ITZCOVITZ / ITSKOVITCH etc. from Butrimonys, Panosiskes, Nemajunai, Vilnius, Drosgusitz.
-RATSAN / RACAN; SIROTA from Butrimonys, Jieznas, Brishton.


Sarah L Meyer
 

There is a Facebook group called FreeObituaryLookups.  https://obituarieshelp.org/  is like a Cindy's list for obituaries - it links to newspapers based on geographical location - but you may need a subscription to the paper (or not).   Also you may need to consider that in major cities, there may have only been a death notice and no obituary, especially if the family was not prominent or wealthy enough.

Sarah L Meyer
Georgetown TX
ANK(I)ER, BIGOS, KARMELEK, PERLSTADT, STOKFISZ, SZPIL(T)BAUM, Poland
BIRGARDOVSKY, EDELBERG, HITE (CHAIT), PERCHIK Russia (southern Ukraine) and some Latvia or Lithuania
https://www.sarahsgenies.com


robinson@...
 

I'm a historian, and I'm also chasing my own family's story. I also recommend the newspaper sites -- newspapers.com and genealogy bank. In addition, some universities have digitized old newspapers from their states. One thing to know is that some old newspapers listed obits only by the last name. 
Sherry Robinson
Albuquerque, NM
ZIMMER, KAMIEL, THOMASHEFSKY, LESHINSKY, FALKER from Galicia and Bessarabia


jbonline1111@...
 

Though I have not usually been successful at finding obituaries of my poor immigrant ancestors, I did find one for an uncle who died in 1916.  He was killed in an accident, so there was litigation involved.  While it may be difficult, it's not impossible. I think this was found at newspapers.com, to which a friend subscribes.
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Barbara Sloan
Conway, SC


Dick Plotz
 

If you click through to an obituary at newspapers.com that you found
by googling the name, you can see an inconspicuous link toward the
bottom of the page that says "Show article text (OCR)". Click that
link to see an unedited OCR text of the article or the whole page, I'm
not sure what determines how much you see. You can then search the
page and read the text. It may be a little garbled; that's the nature
of unedited OCR output. But it will often include the information you
need.

You don't need to be a newspapers.com subscriber to see this.

Dick Plotz
Providence RI USA
Dick@...


On Tue, Sep 8, 2020 at 12:02 PM Mary Henderson <gengenres@...> wrote:

Hi, Trudy!

Newspapers.com is a good resource for obituaries - but it's a paid subscription site.

Mary Henderson


Mary Henderson
Genetic Genealogy Research, LLC
https://gengenres.com/
734-277-7420

Please like us on Facebook at https://www.facebook.com/gengenres


On Tue, Sep 8, 2020 at 8:49 AM Trudy Barch <cousintrudy@...> wrote:

Hello,



Does anyone know when USA obituaries began in newspapers? Other than Legacy are there any other sites where I should be looking for ‘older’ (1930s-1940s) ones?


Howard Kaufman
 

Great sources for obituaries are city libraries.
And the librarians are usually very helpful in locating them for you.
Howard Kaufman
Boca Raton, FL
Researching
KAUFMAN, SCHWARTZ -  Romania and Moldova
LANDE AND KRIEBERG - Ukraine


Fred Half
 

Trudy,

If you are looking in any city or community with a reasonably sized Jewish community (especially Western European based) there is/was a weekly Jewish newspaper (I am familiar with those in Pittsburgh, Philadelphia, Indianapolis, Cincinnati). Many have been digitized and and are free (at least those I am familiar with). Not only do they give obituaries, but also, Bar Mitzvah announcements, engagements and weddings, and the social, political, and educational activities of the various synagogues in the area. A fascinating resource especially if you don't mind going down rabbit holes for related information.

Fred Half
Palo Alto, CA
halfhouse@...