Looking for Gussie Deutsch #usa
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We are looking for Gussie/Augusta Deutsch. We don’t know her maiden name. We assume she was Jewish. She was born about 1886 in Austria-Germany. She was married to Daniel Deutsch (1875-@1935). He lived in Hazelton, PA, where he was a shoemaker, and married Gussie around 1901. They had their first child, Helen, in 1901, in Hazelton, and then Thelma in 1903. They moved to New York about 1911 where their son Seymour was born. The best evidence we have about Daniel is his WWI Draft Registration Card, where he lists his wife Augusta and their address as 334 E 123rd St., NYC. Here Daniel is a shoe salesman, and is totally blind in his left eye. Daniel must have died before 1935, because Gussie is listed in the 1940 US Census as a widow living with her daughter Thelma Deutsch Friedberg in 1935 as well as 1940. We would be most appreciative if you can tell us more about Gussie. False Lead: There is a divorce record of Plaintiff August Friest against Defendant Daniel Deutsch in 1924. This is probably not our Gussie because she and Daniel are seen living together in the 1930 US Census at 334 E 123rd St. Thank you for your help David Jacobowitz |
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Sherri Bobish
David, Daniel DEUTSCH passed on 14 Nov 1936. Some info from his death cert is transcribed at FamilySearch. https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:2WPF-9G9 Regards, Sherri Bobish |
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Sherri Bobish
David, Gussie DEUTSCH passed on in 1970. Both Gussie & Daniel are at Mt. Zion with a society named Auerbach. The Mt. Zion databases is searchable by surname alone, by surname & society name, and by society name alone. http://www.mountzioncemetery.com/search.asp?type=interment Regards, Sherri Bobish |
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Michele Lock
From FamilySearch (via SteveMorse.org), here is the record extract for the marriage of daughter Thelma Deutsch in 1931, which gives Gussie's maiden name as Thirman:
Name: Charles Friedberg Event Type: Marriage Event Date: 21 Jun 1931 Event Place: Manhattan, New York, New York, United States Event Place (Original): Manhattan, New York, New York Gender: Male Age: 28 Marital Status: Single Race: White Birth Year (Estimated): 1903 Birthplace: New York City Father's Name: Harris Friedberg Mother's Name: Celia Neuwirth Spouse's Name: Thelma Deutsch Spouse's Gender: Female Spouse's Age: 25 Spouse's Marital Status: Single Spouse's Race: White Spouse's Birth Year (Estimated): 1906 Spouse's Birthplace: Hazelton, Penn. Spouse's Father's Name: Daniel Deutsch Spouse's Mother's Name: Gussie Thirman Reference ID: cn 15014 GS Film Number: 1684265 https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:24D4-38D -- Michele Lock Lock/Lak/Lok and Kalon in Zagare/Joniskis, Lithuania Olitsky in Alytus, Suwalki, Poland/Lithuania Gutman/Goodman in Czestochowa, Poland Lavine in Trenton, New Jersey and Lida/Minsk gub., Belarus |
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Michele Lock
You could request the death certificate for Gussie Deutsch from the NY City department of Health, but i believe that a person needs to be a direct descendent of the deceased to do so.
You might have better luck requesting the marriage license for the couple, and the 1901 birth certificate for the first child Helen, from the Luzerne PA county courthouse/Register of Wills-Clerk of the Orphan Court. Though with the pandemic going on, that might take longer to be processed. Those would have the maiden name of Gussie Deutsch, and possibly her birthplace: https://www.luzernecounty.org/614/Register-of-Wills -- Michele Lock Lock/Lak/Lok and Kalon in Zagare/Joniskis, Lithuania Olitsky in Alytus, Suwalki, Poland/Lithuania Gutman/Goodman in Czestochowa, Poland Lavine in Trenton, New Jersey and Lida/Minsk gub., Belarus |
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Thank you all for the great suggestions. We now have a handle on Gussie's maiden name: Thirman or Thurman or Hurman from her daughter Thelma's marriage records.
We also got a couple of suggestions of when Daniel Deutsch passed. More research is needed. David Jacobowitz Researching JACOBOWITZ in (now) Slovakia KREINIK near Sedziszow Malopolski, Poland DANZIGER in Radom, Rawa and Warsaw, Poland |
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Michele Lock
Thinking some more about the surname 'Thirman', it could be Thierman or Thorman, or even Furman or Forman, if the clerk at the courthouse misheard the mother's maiden name.
-- Michele Lock Lock/Lak/Lok and Kalon in Zagare/Joniskis, Lithuania Olitsky in Alytus, Suwalki, Poland/Lithuania Gutman/Goodman in Czestochowa, Poland Lavine in Trenton, New Jersey and Lida/Minsk gub., Belarus |
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Many thanks to Michele Lock for pointing us to Mount Zion.
Mount Zion Cemetery DEUTSCH, DANIEL Society AUERBACH Path 34R Gate 24 Row 6 Grave 0001 Map 14 Section Block Lot Burial 11/15/1936. https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/81024623/daniel-deutsch Mount Zion Cemetery DEUTSCH, GUSSIE Society AUERBACH Path 34R Gate 24 Row 6 Grave 0002 Map 14 Section Block Lot Burial 10/14/1970 Gussie Deutsch BIRTH 1885 DEATH Oct 1970 https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/81024638/gussie-deutsch BTW, I submitted edits to Find a Grave with their birth information and Gussie's maiden name. My Great Grandfather Wolf Jacobowitz is also buried in Mount Zion, as well as my Kreinik family's Shtetl, Sedziszow Malopolski. This is why I find genealogy fascinating. Thank you all for your help and guidance. David Jacobowitz Researching JACOBOWITZ in (now) Slovakia KREINIK near Sedziszow Malopolski, Poland DANZIGER in Radom, Rawa and Warsaw, Poland |
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