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Incorrect ship manifest exclusion/deportation designation? #usa #general #records
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Michael Rubin
Like many, I've found an immigrant ancestor deemed liable to become a public charge on a ship's manifest (July, 1909) whose appeal was dismissed and whose line on the manifest is stamped "DEPORTED." The issue is that this person actually made it into the US and showed up in the 1910 census and lived the rest of his life in the US. Aside from the possibility that he went back to Europe and then successfully (re)immigrated between July, 1909 and April, 1910, is it possible that he made it into the US in July, 1909 in spite of the indication to the contrary? Is there a straightforward way to check that? Might there be a correspondence file on his case and what's the best way to search for such a file these days?
Thanks, Michael Rubin Boston USA
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Susan&David
Michael: I recently found an immigrant who arrived in NY from
Rotterdam aboard the Ryndam on Dec 11, 1907. After a hearing before
the Board of Special Inquiry (BSI) and an appeal she was deported
for LPC on Jan 8, 1908, aboard the Statendam . Once back in
Rotterdam she wasted no time in taking the Statendam back to NY on
it next voyage, arriving on Feb 6, 1908. Once again she had to face
the BSI for LPC, but this time was admitted.
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Your guess that your ancestor turned quickly around and returned may well be correct. Keep looking for him on another ship. Try another port of entry. David Rosen Boston, MA
On 12/3/2020 1:46 PM, Michael Rubin via
groups.jewishgen.org wrote:
Like many, I've found an immigrant ancestor deemed liable to become a public charge on a ship's manifest (July, 1909) whose appeal was dismissed and whose line on the manifest is stamped "DEPORTED." The issue is that this person actually made it into the US and showed up in the 1910 census and lived the rest of his life in the US. Aside from the possibility that he went back to Europe and then successfully (re)immigrated between July, 1909 and April, 1910, is it possible that he made it into the US in July, 1909 in spite of the indication to the contrary? Is there a straightforward way to check that? Might there be a correspondence file on his case and what's the best way to search for such a file these days?
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paulkozo@...
It is also quite possible that they went back through a different port. Philadelphia seems to have been popular for this.
-- Paul Hattori London UK SHADUR, SADUR, SHADER, SADER, CHADOUR, SADOUR, SHADOUR, SZADUR from Salakas, Lithuania MINDEL, MINDELL from Utena and Vyzuonos, Lithuania FELLER from Pabrade, Lithuania
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Hello Michael,
As I read it you are asking two questions:
First, other responses to your post are correct that this immigrant likely was deported and turned right around and entered through the same or another port. Look for them arriving about 10 days to a month later. Philadelphia was common for these second attempts—but they could come back through any port of entry, via Canada, etc. The chance the “deported” stamp on the manifest is wrong is low. The record would have been stamped upon the immigrant’s departure. Meanwhile, the statisticians were counting everything daily and at some point those numbers would not add up if it were in error. Also, the SS Company would be billed for the detention of the deportable immigrant, and the SS Co. had a team of people scouring their records to ensure they didn’t pay fees they never incurred.
Second, you ask “Is there a straightforward way to check that? Might there be a correspondence file on his case and what's the best way to search for such a file these days?” This is where it gets tricky because the answer depends on the date. In YOUR case, from 1909/1910, there are two fairly straightforward good options:
Good luck!
Marian Smith
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