Help ship records - not all family did entire journey to USA #belarus #usa #russia #records



My Great grandfather came to England around 1905, his brothers went to the USA, but I cannot find my G grandfathers ships records. An Ancestry spokesperson at one of the conferences, said there were many reasons for getting off the ship in England - sickness, illness, pregnancies, not enough funds for the whole journey etc, it was possible that my G grandmother was pregnant at the time. I wondered if anyone knew if there were any such thing as an 'early leavers ship records' anywhere? 

Thank you in advance
Mandy Molava

Jill Whitehead

There are very few early ship records for journeys across the Baltic to Britain, and certainly hardly any in the 19th century for those who travelled to Hull, and other East Coast ports. They were either not kept or destroyed. See the Moving Here pages on The National Archives website. 

You are lucky if you do have some from 1905.

We all have stories about families who stayed in UK but had intended to go onto USA (e.g. they were robbed of their money, they were terribly sea sick and could not cope with ship trips). Some of my family who came in 1860's or 1870's did go onto USA in about 1905, when the Aliens Act came in, and if they had not bothered to Naturalise as a UK citizen by 1905. 

Jill Whitehead, Surrey, UK

Stephen Weinstein

On Thu, Dec 10, 2020 at 11:31 AM, <mandy.molava@...> wrote:
I wondered if anyone knew if there were any such thing as an 'early leavers ship records' anywhere? 
1. Sometimes the list was prepared in advance, before the ship reached England, and everyone planning to go to the U.S. was put on it, and then those who got off early were crossed out.  So look on the list for the ship from when it reached the U.S., at the crossed out names, and see if she's one of them.
2. There are surviving lists of who departed from some ports.  (Ancestry has a good collection of departures from one port in Germany, but most of the passengers show up on the [free] Statue of Liberty / Ellis Island Foundation database of passengers who arrived at New York, so I rarely use it.  But it would be good for your situation, if she left from that port.)
Stephen Weinstein
Camarillo, California, USA

Sheryl Stahl

I had similar trouble finding an ancestor on a manifest. Someone on the list helped me find that he had taken a different route than other family members. Instead of going directly from Hamburg to New York, he went to England and then to Canada and then traveled on ground to New York. It hadn't occurred to me to check Canadian ports.


Sheryl Stahl (Los Angeles)

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