Help finding locations #poland #russia


Vivs
 

Hi,  this family , father, mother, daughter, were born in 3 different cities in Poland/Russia.  I have been unable to determine where any of the 3 might be.  Hoping, perhaps, someone might have more of a clue than myself with either the handwriting, or the settlements in this region. Please and thank you

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Vivs Laliberte
www.theOCGG.com

Orange County, Calfiornia


Vivs
 

The image was compressed to the point of illegibility, so here's the url

https://www.ancestry.com/imageviewer/collections/61208/images/007766323_00020?pId=450234364

Thanks

Vivs Laliberte


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Vivs Laliberte
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Orange County, Calfiornia


Ellen
 

Benjamin's place of birth is written as Galess. (At first I thought it was Gabess, but look at the formation of the letter "L" in the word Belgium below it.) JewishGen TownFinder suggests the modern-day community of Geleziai in Russia, previously in Lithuania, which was known as Gelez in Yiddish.  Another possibility is Yelets, Russia, also known as Jelez.  Whether either community was ever part of Poland, however, I don't know.

The birthplaces of Rose and Sarah Lena appear to be Pashika and Assavetz, respectively.  Pashika could be Pyszaca, while Assavetz could be Siewierz (a/k/a Sieviezh).  Both communities are in Poland, about 300 km apart. 

Ellen



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Ellen Morosoff Pemrick 
Saratoga County, NY

Researching WEISSMAN/VAYSMAN (Ostropol, Ukraine); MOROZ and ESTRIN/ESTERKIN (Shklov & Bykhov, Belarus); LESSER/LESZEROVITZ, MAIMAN, and BARNETT/BEINHART/BERNHART (Lithuania/Latvia); and ROSENSWEIG/ROSENZWEIG, KIRSCHEN, and SCHWARTZ (Botosani, Romania)


Michele Lock
 

I notice the naturalization petition is dated 1922, and the previous country of origin is listed as Republic of Poland. The arrival records for the wife say she is coming from Wilna (Vilna) gubernia, most of which is now in Lithuania.

And the town Lubowo is in the Suwalki region, right at the border between Poland and Lithuania.

By 1922, Poland was independent and known as the Republic of Poland, but battling with newly independent Lithuania over the Suwalki/southern Lithuania region. At the time, Poland was even claiming Vilnius as part of Poland.

I believe the family is from this contested region, most of which was in interwar Poland, but is now in Lithuania.

It is possible that the family is giving so many different places that they are from, because they were living in a small village (or villages) near Lubowo, or possibly moving from the village(s) to Lubowo at some point, or the town/village had different names, depending on which country was claiming ownership.

Expanding Google maps around Lubowo might reveal villages with names similar to those on the petition.

I've also had luck finding little villages on historical maps of Poland, Lithuania and Belarus, since some of these villages have disappeared.

Another way I've been able to figure out a town of origin is to check documents for relatives that also came to the US, especially siblings and first cousins. Since the couple in question were married in the old country, checking out both her family and his family might be fruitful.

In my family, I've had twin brothers give different towns as their birthplaces, so go figure.

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Michele Lock

Lock/Lak/Lok and Kalon in Zagare/Joniskis/Gruzdziai, Lithuania
Trisinsky/Trushinsky/Sturisky and Leybman in Dotnuva, Lithuania
Olitsky in Alytus, Suwalki, Poland/Lithuania
Gutman/Goodman in Czestochowa, Poland
Lavine/Lewin/Levin in Trenton, New Jersey and Lida/Vilna gub., Belarus


Michele Lock
 

This may be a long shot - 

On Google Maps, about 5 km west of Liubavas/Lubowo, there is a town called Eyszeryszki, just inside Poland. I believe this would be pronounced something like Aisherishki, and it might be the Assaretz birth place.
About 7 km east of Liubavas/Lubowo, there is a town called Gabrieliskiai, and possibly this is the Gabess in the documents.
I can't find anything that would correspond to Pachicko or Poshika in the general area.

I'd still check and see where near relatives say they are from in their own documents.
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Michele Lock

Lock/Lak/Lok and Kalon in Zagare/Joniskis/Gruzdziai, Lithuania
Trisinsky/Trushinsky/Sturisky and Leybman in Dotnuva, Lithuania
Olitsky in Alytus, Suwalki, Poland/Lithuania
Gutman/Goodman in Czestochowa, Poland
Lavine/Lewin/Levin in Trenton, New Jersey and Lida/Vilna gub., Belarus