Where is 'Osernovitz, Austria'? #galicia #general


Aaron Slotnik
 

Hello,

I wanted to provide an update to the group on this request since I think the findings are broadly applicable.  First, thanks to all who took their time to take a look and offer their help and suggestions.  In particular, Yale noticed that there is a very slight handwriting difference between the 'O' in Osernovitz and the 'O' in Ornstein.  That combined with the lack of likely candidates for the town other than my initial assumption of the well-known Czernowitz, caused me to revisit the Czernowitz vital records index (an amazing resource at https://czernowitz.geneasearch.net/ if you were not aware and haven't used it).

I took a more careful look at the indexed records and indeed found his birth record as Ahron Ber Orenstein (I knew his Hebrew name from his matzeva as Aharon Dov).  The date is off by a few years from what is provided on his naturalization, but the month is the same and the mother's name is correct.  Since the parents did not have a civil marriage, this is the only record I've found that mentions the father's name, but I knew it was Ire / Uri and is listed here as Isser.

Can any of the German speakers in the group read Isser's occupation (https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CS9R-1WDT-3?cat=1378569)?  It's the record on December 23 for Ahron Ber in house 1225.

I also want to thank Giannis who was able to find the passenger manifests for the family.  Again, Benjamin's naturalization was partially correct . . . the ship name was correct, but the dates were not.  Since that is a common error I thought it was off by a year, focused on that ship and gave up when I couldn't find him even after looking at all of the indexed male names.  It turns out he was on the same ship the following month, indexed as Berl Hormstein/Homstein.  His wife and children followed through England about 2 years later, indexed as Crustein/Orustein.

So . . . keep looking . . . the records are out there!

Regards,
Aaron Slotnik
Chicago, IL USA


Aaron Slotnik
 

Hello,

Seeking assistance from the map mavens out there.  I am unable to find the birth location of Benjamin Ornstein referred to in the attached US Petition for Naturalization - 'Osernovitz, Austria'.  Neither the JewishGen Shtetlseeker nor Gazeteer return likely candidates.  My initial thought was that it was Czernowitz, but the first letter is definitely an 'O' (reference the 'O' in his surname).  Nonetheless, I tried searching Czernowitz vital records indexed from there and didn't find the family.

Doing a search for the town in the JewishGen unified search did turn up a few references, but no further clues to where it is exactly or the modern name.

The town is almost certainly in Galicia, possibly in the vicinity of 'Jagielnica' (Polish spelling) where his wife was from but it could be farther afield.  I don't think this is a case of mistaken or purposefully incorrect information since I've been able to confirm a number of other facts provided through other records (although I can't find his passenger manifest, but that may be the subject of another post).

Thanks in advance for any assistance!

Regards,
Aaron Slotnik
Chicago, IL  USA