Marriages in London #germany #unitedkingdom


Eva Lawrence
 

I think that the most likely reason for people to travel to London from Berlin simply in order to marry, was that they wanted a civil, rather than a religious ceremony, and that this was not available in Prussia. 
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Eva Lawrence
St Albans, UK.


Dan Ruby
 

On Tue, Feb 23, 2021 at 03:39 PM, Eva Lawrence wrote:
I think that the most likely reason for people to travel to London from Berlin simply in order to marry, was that they wanted a civil, rather than a religious ceremony, and that this was not available in Prussia. 
This record agrees with your theory. However, I have another case in 1908 where another RINGEL family member from Berlin married in London at the Great Synagogue. In both cases, two Berlin couples traveled together for London marriages. Most or all of the parties in the four marriages were born in Austria but lived in Berlin. 
= Dan Ruby


Corinna Woehrl
 

Hello all,

I am sorry to disagree with this assumption: from 1874 on, a civil marriage necessarily precedes any religious marriage in Germany (and then Prussia) – until now.
Berlin was a melting pot with various religious communities and If you wanted to 'be different' you could. In a smaller town, people would have cared but not in Berlin. There must have been a different reason. My guess is missing documents and fewer questions in London...

Regards from Germany
Corinna (Wöhrl), Hoisdorf


sharon yampell
 

Guess I will have to tell the cousin who thought Rose could be found in Brooklyn, that he is wrong…I only wish she and Nathan had had children; it would have been nice to find more cousins…

 

Sharon F. Yampell

Voorhees, New Jersey

 

From: Corinna Woehrl
Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2021 12:40 PM
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Subject: Re: [JewishGen.org] Marriages in London #germany #unitedkingdom

 

Hello all,

I am sorry to disagree with this assumption: from 1874 on, a civil marriage necessarily precedes any religious marriage in Germany (and then Prussia) – until now.
Berlin was a melting pot with various religious communities and If you wanted to 'be different' you could. In a smaller town, people would have cared but not in Berlin. There must have been a different reason. My guess is missing documents and fewer questions in London...

Regards from Germany
Corinna (Wöhrl), Hoisdorf

 


ab12cohen@...
 

Dan could you please confirm the name of the Registrar who signed the form at the bottom. It looks like J Schawacks. An unusual name in UK.
My paternal grandmother's maiden name was Rosa Schuwachs but she arrived in London in 1906 from Vitebsk and immediately married my gfather Barnett Cohen.

Alan Cohen


Eleanor Lind
 

Name looks like Edwards to me. Registrar might well not be a Jew.
Eleanor Platt Lind
London UK


Evelyn and Christopher Wilcock
 

I have Germans who married in London (and came to London for that purpose) because a Civil marriage in Germany required the birth certificates of the couples' parents. These may have been hard to obtain when the parent was an immigrant. Or have been destroyed in WW1 where French nationality labelled one an enemy alien in Germany.
Evelyn Wilcock
London
eandcw@aol/com