Unknown grandfather #unitedkingdom


Sarah L Meyer
 

Have you done a DNA test?  Your matches could be a key here, especially since it appears that you have one Jewish grandparent.   The common recommendations when searching for an unknown parent/grandparent are to test at Ancestry and 23 and me and then download your raw data and upload it to FamilyTreeDNA, MyHeritage, Gedmatch and LivingDNA (especially since you apparently are from the UK)
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Sarah L Meyer
Georgetown TX
ANK(I)ER, BIGOS, KARMELEK, PERLSTADT, STOKFISZ, SZPIL(T)BAUM, Poland
BIRGARDOVSKY, EDELBERG, HITE (CHAIT), PERCHIK Russia (southern Ukraine) and some Latvia or Lithuania
https://www.sarahsgenies.com


Jill Whitehead
 

Hi Val,

In terms of both second name changes, Baum is a common name in Manchester - one of my Abrahams/Abrams relations married a female Baum or Boam (interchangeable) in Manchester in the late 19th century. 

I have heard of Berens becoming Brown, Brand or similar. 

In terms of first name changes, in my family Harris or Hirsch often became Harry. Aaron also became Harry.

Commonly families reverted from their surnames to their patronyms. My great great grandfather was Mordecai/Mortchel, and this was the family patronym for my father's family so some members of the family changed their surname from Servian/Serwianski to Max, Marks or Maxwell after Mordecai . This was in both UK in Liverpool and in USA in Chicago.

My Abrahams/Abrams family was called Ceglarski in the old country but reverted back to the patronym of Abram/Abraham in Manchester.

But occupations could also be used. One Servian became Silverman as he silvered mirrors, but he also later became a Maxwell.

Another Servian borrowed a neighbour's name, unrelated to the family and became Lynam.

So you need to think outside the box and examine census and BMD records for clues. It took me ten years to find out some of the above, but the clues were there in the records.  

Jill Whitehead, Surrey, UK

 


David Harrison
 

Dear Val.
A common change of name is to Change the family Name, but keep the initial letter.  Next common is to also change the Given Name (Jews do not have Christian Names) whilst keeping that initial.  If the alphabet character set has changed, which seems unlikely in your case, to pass from Hebrew, Arabic, Greek or Cyrilic then a similar sound is often retained.  I have known of people changing their family name to that of their mother's maiden name.  Beyond these, you might be better flipping a coin. or even looking for a prisoner who was inside with a person of the name that you have found!!  One or both of the "e"s might have been "a"s.
Good Hunting
Regards
David Harrison


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Hello all

I posted some time ago about my wish to find my Jewish Grandfather. but things overtook me and I had to retreat from posting   My Grandmother -a gentile - had my father out of wedlock in 1925 in Manchester in a Salvation Army mother and baby home.  She  named a man called Harry Berens as the father of her baby.  She also gave an address but he was never found.  She lived in East Yorkshire so I am not sure if she went to Manchester to work as Monthly Nurse, or to simply have her child there. I have identified two second cousins now through DNA testing and have thus managed to eliminate two brothers out of eight in a family named Berenbaum who resided in and around Manchester.  One of the remaining 6 Berenbaum brothers could be my grandfather.  There was no one called Harry Berens in this family however,  although some altered their name to Berens, did people alter their christian names also I wonder and the address she gave was not linked to them either, but I guess both he and/or my grandmother could have lied!  I have hit a brick wall now and do not know where to go from here. I would appreciate some ideas to proceed on this.  Best wishes, Val Featherstone


valfeatherstone53@...
 

Hello all

I posted some time ago about my wish to find my Jewish Grandfather. but things overtook me and I had to retreat from posting   My Grandmother -a gentile - had my father out of wedlock in 1925 in Manchester in a Salvation Army mother and baby home.  She  named a man called Harry Berens as the father of her baby.  She also gave an address but he was never found.  She lived in East Yorkshire so I am not sure if she went to Manchester to work as Monthly Nurse, or to simply have her child there. I have identified two second cousins now through DNA testing and have thus managed to eliminate two brothers out of eight in a family named Berenbaum who resided in and around Manchester.  One of the remaining 6 Berenbaum brothers could be my grandfather.  There was no one called Harry Berens in this family however,  although some altered their name to Berens, did people alter their christian names also I wonder and the address she gave was not linked to them either, but I guess both he and/or my grandmother could have lied!  I have hit a brick wall now and do not know where to go from here. I would appreciate some ideas to proceed on this.  Best wishes, Val Featherstone