Phonetic search results for Suwalki using JewishGen Poland Collection #poland


paulkozo@...
 

A "Phonetically like" search on Surname can get odd results for Suwalki records.  For example, searching "Silberman"  I find a low percentage of odd given names that include : Sorry, Well then, The circus, Councilman, and Yes,David.    There are also a few dodgy surname results  such as WINDOW, IDENT  and GLASSES. These do not show up when using "Sounds like" and "Silberman", or "is Exactly" and the correct surname (Zylberman, Zilberman, or Sylberman).

I cannot seem to find similar results for other gubernia. 

Has anyone else had similar results?   

I wrote to "webmaster@..." in March and April, but these results persist.

Paul Hattori
London UK

SHADUR, SADUR, SHADER, SADER, CHADOUR, SADOUR, SHADOUR,  SZADUR from Salakas, Lithuania
MINDEL, MINDELL from Utena and Vyzuonos, Lithuania
FELLER from Pabrade, Lithuania


Sally Bruckheimer <sallybruc@...>
 

"A "Phonetically like" search on Surname can get odd results for Suwalki records.  For example, searching "Silberman"  I find a low percentage of odd given names that include : Sorry, Well then, The circus, Councilman, and Yes,David."

As you say, there are a "Phoenetically like" and a "Sounds like" when searching. Phonetically gets you many fewer results - and some odd things. I always us "Sounds like", and then I have everything to search through. They are 2 different Soundex systems, but I don't know why anyone would bother with Phonetically like; maybe an IT Pro can tell us why, but it doesn't really matter.

Sally Bruckheimer
Princeton, NJ


Michael Tobias
 

Sounds like uses Daitch-Mokotoff soundex and produces many false positive results.

Phonetic uses Beider Morse phonetic matches and removes most of the false positives.

It is worth trying both but phonetic is superior.

Michael Tobias
Glasgow, Scotland


Michael Tobias
 

There are several issues here.
 
 
1. When you do a search and a marriage record matches you get rows returned for both bride and groom. You might not understand why one row was returned for the search but it is because the spouse matched.
 
 
2. The matches can be with any combination of given name and surname appearing on the record. Check the names of parents, spouses, witnesses etc. 
 
 
3. As for CIRCUS, COUNCILMAN, WELL THEN etc you are seeing these results because you have asked your browser to TRANSLATE the page from Polish to English. It is treating the names as words. You should stop your browser translating.
 
 
Regards
 
 
Michael Tobias
Glasgow Scotland