Where is Lakma, Hungary? #hungary


Dan Rottenberg
 

I'm trying to track the movements of my Hungarian maternal ancestors, mostly named Klein, Spielberger, and Burger. They appear to have lived in villages around Kosice (then Kassa) in the early 19th Century before migrating southward over several decades to Miskolc and from there to America in the 1870s. On an 1882 birth certificate in New York, my great-grandparents Herman and Julia Klein listed their birthplaces, respectively, as "Michallitz" and "Lakma, Ungaren" (that is, Hungary). I presume Michallitz is a misspelling of Miskolc. But where is Lakma? I've never found any town by that name in any database— not in JewishGen, Google, or even Jordan Auslander's comprehensive Genealogical Gazetteer of the Kingdom of Hungary. I presume Lakma is a misspelling of some other town name, presumably near Miskolc. But what town might it be? I would appreciate any thoughts or suggestions.
Dan Rottenberg
Philadelphia PA
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Vivian Kahn
 

Dan,

Possible candidates, all in Borsod megye include Ladhaza in Miskolci jaras, Alacska in Szentpeteri, and Lak in Szendrei. There is a town called Nagy-Mihaly in Egri jaras, which might also be Michalitz. 

Even though Auslander's Gazetteer is my primary source for place names, another place to check is the list of places by county and district at Janos Bogardi's Radix Research website  http://www.bogardi.com/gen/g104.shtml

Vivian Kahn
JewishGen Hungarian Research Director


Judi Gyory Missel
 

Hi Dan,
Many years ago, I downloaded a copy of the 1828 Census listing of all the small towns in Hungary. Obviously, many, many changes happened since 1828, but I found that I can get a sense of town name origins and a place to start. Here's the list of towns for Borsod megye for just the L through M town names. As you can see there was a "Lak". It could have easily been absorbed into a nearby larger town. That was the case for some of my towns.
BORSOD MEGYE:
Lad- Bessenyo, Lad-Haza, Lak, Laszlofalva, Latorút, Lovo, Malyi, Malyinka, Martonyi, Mercse, Meszes, Mezo-Keresztes, Mezo-Kovesd, Mezo-Nyarad, Mindszent, Miskolc, Mocsolyas, Mogyorsd, Monosbel, Mucsony

Judi Gyory Missel
Mesa, Arizona


G. C. Kalman
 


peggyfreedman@...
 

I recently learned of the Hathi Trust Digital Library at https://www.hathitrust.org/

While looking for the town where my Spielberger family lived, I found a book that appears to be a list of Austrian Hungarian towns and their counties and districts from 1773.  This book may also be on Google Books, I have not looked.

I'm attaching a screenshot of the page with several names that might be related to "Lakma" including many that are not highlighted.

The book is called 
Magyarország helységeinek 1773-ban készült hivatalos

This may be a direct link to the book, but I am not sure if you have to be signed into the Hathi Trust to see it:
#6 - Magyarország helységeinek 1773-ban készült hivatalos ... - Full View | HathiTrust Digital Library

Reading this book is a stretch for me - every word has to go into a translation program, and not all the words come out in English!  But several of the towns look like they could be written as "Lakma" if they were recorded by how they sounded.


Please keep us posted.  I am still trying to figure out if the Hungarian/Slovakian Spielberger family is one big family (I've connected 3 large branches who have no living memory of each other) or if it is just a common name.


Best,

 

Peggy Mosinger Freedman





Dan Rottenberg
 

Thanks, everyone, for your help. Thanks to you, I now see that the village of Lak, 17 miles north of Miskolc, is the most likely candidate. And it helps reinforce my conjecture about relationships between my Klein and Spielberger relatives who lived in that area before migrating southward to Miskolc.
Dan Rottenberg
Philadelphia PA
dan@...