JEWS IN HIDING IN NICE DURING WW2 #france #holocaust


Bernard Flam
 

Dear Catherine, 
I reply in English, as most of our fellow detectives don't speak French : nobody is perfect !
  1. I have discovered it's not easy to recover a post on this forum only by its number, so I attach again the finding aid of "Alpes Maritimes war archives" and some papers by historians about fate of Jews in this area. 
  2. As soon as October 1940, Jews in France (foreign and French citizens) had to register themselves at police station in the place were they were living, free or house arrested. So files are kept in Police archives by the various "Archives départementales". When they registered, the infamous inked stamp "JUIF" was printed on their identity card.
  3. After the first rounds-up of Jews in 1941, some clever Jews printed themselves "JUIF" on their card without going to be registered at the police station. When they were controlled in the street, foreign Jews couldn't hide they were Jews (accent in french, etc.) but as the stamp was printed, policeman couldn't guess they weren't known by the administration and not written on lists for further round-up.
  4. When process of "dénaturalisation" (of Jews being French by easy 1927' naturalization law) started in 1942-1943, administration had to find where Jews were living across France from there official address before 1939. Decree of dénaturalisation was published in Journal Officiel of French laws, but of course, it wasn't the first reading of our Jews in the hiding. Some never heard of the decree. But police read it and could check with persons on their lists and go to search them.
  5. Concerning registration of foreign Jews living in France who were stateless (as soon as 1918 and as late as ...now, as others refugees), they were and they are registered at OFPRA, "Office français de protection des réfugiés et apatrides" : this is a State administration,  https://www.ofpra.gouv.fr/fr/histoire-archives/archives
  6. You can ask (in French) if they have a file at your "Losts" : https://www.ofpra.gouv.fr/sites/default/files/atoms/files/formulaire_consultation_arc.pdf
Khavershaft
Bernard Flam
Archives & history of Medem Center - Arbeter Ring (Bund / Workmen circle of France)


JUROVSKY,Catherine
 

Merci Bernard
Oui je parle français d'ailleurs nous avons déjà été en contact! Je dois être un peu bête mais je n'ai pas réussi à retrouver votre post du 06/03
J'ai été sur le site en ligne des Archives des Alpes maritimes mais sans rien trouver. Je ne sais pas si il n'y a rien en ligne ou si je ne  sais pas chercher . En tout état de cause je suis sûre qu'il y a au moins un dossier pour mes grands parents car dans le dossier de naturalisation de mon grand-père aux Archives Nationales il y a le résultat d'une enquête demandée par le Ministère de l'Intérieur auprès de la préfecture des Alpes maritimes dans le cadre de la commission de dénaturalisation (en PJ) Cela signifie qu'ils ont dû se déclarer à Nice à un moment ou un autre et qu'il y a donc un dossier quelque part à leur nom. Par ailleurs pour mes grand oncles qui étaient apatrides j'ai cru comprendre qu'ils avaient également une obligation de s'enregistrer? J'ai écrit aux archives pour leur demander une aide mais je n'ai aucune réponse à ce stade. Cordialement
Catherine JUROVSKY

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Bernard Flam
 

Hi from Paris,
Dear Catherine,
I hope you speak French...
Concerning fate of Jews in Nice (Alpes-Maritimes) during WWII,  I already replied by my post  #643817, date 06/03/20.
Please look at it.
I attached the Finding Aid of WWII archives in "Archives Départementales of Alpes Maritimes / A.D.A.M.), including archives about foreign Jews.
And some papers by various historian.
My great parents survived in this area from 1942 to 1943 (as long as Nice had been under Italian authority).

As a general advice, please consider :
  • start by searching this forum with some keywords : perhaps your question has already be answered in the previous years...
  • a great effort has been made in French "Archives Départementales" (main land France is split in 95 "départements" since French Revolution") for cataloging their archives. When we, French historian or genealogy detective, discuss together, we are always surprised by what we can find in these archives. But you can only search if you have some knowledge that your ancestor could have left some traces in this particular département. 
Khavershaft
Bernard Flam
History & archives of Medem Center Arbeter Ring (Worker's Circle - Bund of France)


JUROVSKY,Catherine
 

Thanks very much to all of you for your help!!  The documents were particularly interesting. 
Fortunately my family survived the "rafles" even my grand mother died very soon after the end of the war
Best regards
Catherine JUROVSKY
Catherine.jurovsky@...


Jean-Pierre Stroweis
 

If you can read french, you should take a look at Serge Klarsfeld book (1993) on the roundup of foreign Jews in Nice. The book is online at 

https://klarsfeld-ffdjf.org/publications/livres/1993-LA-RAFLE-DES-JUIFS-A-NICE/mobile/ 

Jean-Pierre Stroweis, Jerusalem

https://stevemorse.org/france 


Lewis, Megan
 

Hi,

Many Holocaust related records in France are held at the departmental archives, not local archives.  Nice is in the Alpes-Maritime department, and their archive's website is https://www.departement06.fr/culture/archives-departementales-2797.html.

However, since Nice is a large city, you should also check with the city archive, https://archives.nicecotedazur.org/.  Both websites are in French.

USHMM has selected records from the Alpes-Maritime departmental archives.  I checked the finding aid.  We do not have the Police d'Estrangers records.

Megan Lewis, reference librarian
United States Holocaust Memorial Museum


Karen Lukeman
 

Hi, 

I'm currently reading a book, The Spiral Shell, a memoire by Sandell Morse about Jews in France during WWII...how some were hidden, how some resisted, about some organizations which helped, etc. Although the book is not about Nice, perhaps you may find it of interest and it may provide some additional resources to you.

All the best! 
--
Karen Calmon Lukeman
KALMANOWITZ (Lyubcha and towns near Grodno, Vilna and Minsk)
GOLDSMITH (Bakshty and Ivje)
NASSER (Damascus)
BENBAJI (Damascus)
BALLAS (Damascus)


Jill Whitehead
 

I went on holiday to Nice in summer 2019 pre Covid. There is a memorial plaque to the victims of Nazism generally on colonnades between the shopping area and the sea front. There is also the Marc Chagal museum/art gallery near the rail station as he lived for a long time in Nice. However, it is mostly focused on his childhood in E. Europe, rather than his time in Nice. The Rothschilds/Effrussis also lived at Cap Ferrat near Nice in a rather opulent mansion. The Town Museum on the sea front mainly focussed on the 1960s movie industry when we were there, including its Jewish luminaries (the Pink Panther films were made there and some James Bond films). 

Jill Whitehead, Surrey, UK


rottenberg
 

The best sites to get informations are 
Association des fils et filles de déportés (Serge Klarsfeld),
Memorial de la Shoah.
 
ther are also other site well documented about the subject. Just have a look in Google.
click for instance : 'rafle des Juifs de Nice'.
 

The best book I have read about this is : 

'les rafles des juifs par la Gestapo à partir due 8 septembre 1943' written by Serge  Klarsfeld (available at Fils et Filles de déportés  juifs de France)

'Les Transferts des Juifs de la Région de Nice vers Drancy' (fils et filles de déportés juifs de France)

 
I don't know archive site in Nice about this period.
 
if you search on Google : Rafle des Juifs de Nice, you will get a lot of informations and documents online about the life of Jewish in Nice during WW2.
 
Jews were in good condition when Nice was occupied by Italian troops. But the hell is arrived when German Nazi have kicked out Italian troop in 1943 after the arrestation of Mussolini. Jews where trapped. A lot of them have been hidden in the Alps mountains around Nice with help of local population. But numerous have been arrested, send to Hotel Excvelsior in Nice and then to Drancy and Auschwitz.
 
If you don't speak french I suggest to use Google translate to get the translation of the sites in your language.

Michel Rottenberg
michel@...


JUROVSKY,Catherine
 

Hello every one
Could someone tell me how to proceed to get information concerning available Archives in Nice during the Vichy period.  My grandparents (naturalized french in 36) and 2 brothers of my grandmother (stateless) hid in Nice from 1940 onwards. I would like to know if there are archives at the Police des Etrangers for them but do not know how to proceed without going to Nice. I would consider going if there is something to see though.
Their names

Naoum JUROVSKY and Raissa nee Bespaloff  (Both French)
Mordko Bespaloff and Angelika nee Kahn (Stateless/latvian)
Samuel Bespaloff and Julia nee Kahn (stateless/latvian)

Please answer privalely
Catherine JUROVSKY

catherine.jurovsky@...