German Jewish Community: Grötzingen, Alb-Donau-Kreis, Baden-Württemberg, Germany or Grötzingen, Durlach, Baden, Württemburg #germany


d.mayer@...
 

Dear Connie

Some digitized records for Grotzingen (near present day Karlsruhe) are available here :
https://www2.landesarchiv-bw.de/ofs21/olf/struktur.php?bestand=12390&klassi=&anzeigeKlassi=014&letztesLimit=50&baumSuche=&standort=

Records for the jewish community start in 1811.
https://www2.landesarchiv-bw.de/ofs21/olf/struktur.php?bestand=12390&klassi=&anzeigeKlassi=014&letztesLimit=50&baumSuche=&standort=

You might be able to find traces of siblings who stayed in Grotzingen, if any.

Best Regards
Daniel Mayer, Paris
d.mayer@...


Family and DNA
 

The PDF is here I think, along with a bunch of other interesting things (which is why I'm sharing it with the entire list)

https://www.karlsruhe.de/b1/stadtgeschichte/literatur/stadtarchiv.de

Juliana Berland (France)

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David Seldner
 

The book "Juden in Karlsruhe" is not available anymore, out of print. But you can download a digital version.
Unfortunately, I forgot where I downloaded it, but I have it (Hardcopy of course and as a pdf). It is too big to send it via email but I can upload it to Google and send the link to whoever would like to have it.
Just send me your email addresses and I will make it available for you, together with a few more books about Jews in Karlsruhe and Baden.
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David Seldner, Karlsruhe, Germany
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ccelaynarose3@...
 

Thank you, I'm trying to access it thru the Library of Congress. Hoprfully I'll be able to find it!
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Connie Derosier Carter
Kissimmee, FL, Leominster, MA


Andreas Schwab
 

There is a used copy at ebay: https://www.ebay.com/p/5213336

You can find all libraries holding these publications via WorldCat.org :
https://www.worldcat.org/title/juden-in-karlsruhe-beitrage-zu-ihrer-geschichte-bis-zur-nationalsozialistischen-machtergreifung/oclc/25218332
Specifically, the New York Public Library and the Leo Beack Institute are accesible to the general public. You could try to get a library loan through your local library. 

Anther publication by Ms. Asche is "Eintausend Jahre Grötzingen: Die Geschichte eines Dorfes". It contains some information about the Grötzingen Jews. 
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Andreas Schwab, Montreal, Canada


ccelaynarose3@...
 

Thank you so much, David! I would be glad to forward what digital copies that I have of sources from Canada. I can't find any from Germany as yet. I have found information on how he immigrated to Canada. What other documentation would she require do you think?

Thank you again for your offer to help. I truly appreciate the information as well.
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Connie Derosier Carter
Kissimmee, FL, Leominster, MA


ccelaynarose3@...
 

Oh Thank you so very much! Would you happen to know if any of these publications are accessible through other national libraries or archives in the US by any chance? I would be willing to pay for the articles to access them.

Thanks again!
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Connie Derosier Carter
Kissimmee, FL, Leominster, MA


David Seldner
 

Andreas, Connie,

you are correct that Mrs. Asche is the expert but she has retired end of August. Another expert is Dr. Ernst Otto Bräunche but he is also retired.
Nevertheless, I would recommend that you write to the municipal archives, archiv@.... 
Since I am in contact with Mrs. Asche I can forward her requests (privately) but I doubt that she is able to help without having all the papers.

Good luck and best regards,
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David Seldner, Karlsruhe, Germany
seldner@...


Andreas Schwab
 

The expert in Grötzingen Jewish history is Susanne Asche, head of the cultural office of the city of Karlsruhe.
https://www.karlsruhe.de/b1/kultur/kulturfoerderung/kulturamt.de
https://karlshochschule.de/en/university/people/lecturers/dr-susanne-asche
You can reach Ms Asche via her office at kulturamt@...
Asche has written several articles on the Jews of Grötzingen, for example:
Susanne Asche, Vom Traditionalismus auf dem Land zur Anpassung in der Stadt. Geschichte der Juden in Grötzingen und Durlach 1715 - 1933, in: Heinz Schmitt/u.a. (Hrg.), Juden in Karlsruhe. Beiträge zu ihrer Geschichte bis zur nationalsozialistischen Machtergreifung, Veröffentlichungen des Karlsruher Stadtarchivs, Bd. 8, Badenia-Verlag, Karlsruhe 1988, S. 189 f.
You can find this publication at several Boston university libraries as well as at Brandeis.

Grötzingen Jelwish BDM records start at 1811:
https://www2.landesarchiv-bw.de/ofs21/olf/struktur.php?bestand=5632&klassi=&anzeigeKlassi=007
Unfortunately, these records are not online.
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Andreas Schwab, Montreal, Canada


ccelaynarose3@...
 

thank you for your information on the communities. I am able to rule out  Alb-Donau-Kreis right away just from the date it was formed. my ancestor was born in 1749 if that helps at all. anyone who has information or leads on churches or synagogue records in the Durlach area during the mid 1700's, would be greatly appreciated. Thanks again!
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Connie Derosier Carter
Kissimmee, FL, Leominster, MA


Rodney Eisfelder
 

Connie,
According to the German wikipedia, there are three places called Grötzingen, all in the state of Baden-Würtemburg.
See: https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gr%C3%B6tzingen
One of them is next to Durlach, on the outskirts of Karlsruhe. One is in Alb-Donau-Kreis not far from the city of Ulm, and the third is part of the town of Aichtal, roughly midway between the other two.
You'll need to assess your sources to decide which is the correct one, or perhaps you could reach out to the local archives to see if they have any trace of your ancestors family.

I hope this helps,
Rodney Eisfelder,
Melbourne, Australia



Andreas Schwab
 

Durlach is today part of the city of Karlsruhe. It was the capital of the Margravate (Duchy) of Baden-Durlach, which existed from 1535 bis 1771. The Alb-Donau-Keis region was formed in 1973. The two regions are at two opposite ends of Baden-Württemberg: Karlsruhe in the West almost near the Rhine river, and  Alb-Donau-Keis at the East surrounding Ulm at the Danube river. 
In order to help you, we would need more details of the sources you have, most importantly about the time frame. Germany's political geography has changed many times during the last millennia.
 
Andreas Schwab, Montreal, Canada


ccelaynarose3@...
 

I have a question that I hope that someone can help me with. My 4th g grandfather was born in Grötzingen, Baden, Württemburg, Germany. Now, I've seen records in Canada, where he "immigrated" (was sent as a soldier), lived and died. Those sources say that he was born in the "Durlach" Province. Then,  on another site, I saw that he was born in that "Alb-Donau-Keis" Province or region. I can't verify that source as it is on a site that I don't have access to. Does anyone know the difference between the two regions? Are they the same? I've been researching all day and can't find enough information on either to make a determination. I also can't seem to verify which area that my ancestor was actually born in. Is there a good site to verify this information on? His surname changed from Germany to Canada and then again from him to his children and so forth. Additionally, I don't know who his parents are! My ancestor is Michel Süder, just in case you were curious...☺️

Any info on this town would be very helpful.
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Connie Derosier Carter
Kissimmee, FL, Leominster, MA