1910 English Handwriting Question #translation


Paula Fleisher
 

Hello!
 
I’m trying to decipher the name of my gggrandmother whose name is on this document but is illegible to me. I’ve also posted on ViewMate (thank you to one person who has given this a go!). 
 
Thank you for taking a look and making a guess, if you can.
 
Paula Fleisher
Researching: 
 

  • Yanov, Rosenthal, Epstein from Nizhyn
  • Kaiser from Kiev (?)
  • Salzman from Ekaterinburg
  • Fleisher from Bar and Berditchev
  • Mittelman, Teper from Chelm
  • Zhovtis from Vinnitsa


Yehoshua Sivan
 

The scan is too small to read.
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Yehoshua Sivan


Linda Grebler
 

First name is definitely Lee.
The word above the name looks to be Russia (place of birth or death?) Because it matches the handwriting two lines above that also says Russia.

The last name is too hard to read because when I tried to zoom in it just gets blurrier.  Pretty sure it starts with E though.  
Sorry, I know from experience this is frustrating!
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Linda GREBLER

Researching Grebler, Snyder, Lavenberg, Lowenberg, Nottage, Maguire, Gregory.


rroth@...
 

Usually here we get links to Viewmate and can look at the scan much larger. I have no idea how this is done but there must be people on here who can tell you how they do it. Moderators?
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Robert Roth
Kingston, NY
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pbfleisher@...
 

Hello and thank you for your replies! I'll try attaching a PDF to see if that helps with size, and here's the link to the ViewMate posting. 


Paula Fleisher
Researching:
 

 

  • Yanov, Rosenthal, Epstein from Nizhyn
  • Kaiser from Kiev (?)
  • Salzman from Ekaterinburg
  • Fleisher from Bar and Berditchev
  • Mittelman, Teper from Chelm
  • Zhovtis from Vinnitsa


Ada Glustein
 

Looks to me like Lee Exlivitch.

Ada Glustein,
Searching: GLUSTEIN, GLUSSTEIN, GLUSHTEIN, ETC. (Ukraine); PLETSEL (Ukraine)


rroth@...
 

Thanks for the link, that helps. The name reads "Lee Exliviteli," i would say, the only unclear part being after the final "e". That squiggle might also be an "h", it is pretty identical to the last "h" in Asquith which appears twice above. In that case the last name would be Exliviteh. Neither one of those sounds right but that's handwriting for you.

Jacob's cause of death is "pthisis pulmonalia" FYI, probably meaning TB or something like it.
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Robert Roth
Kingston, NY
rroth@...


GEORGE MASON
 

To me it looks like the name is "Lee or Lu Eylivitek"

Good luck on your search !

George Mason
USA


r.peeters
 

I think it says 'Lee Eilivitech' or 'Lae Eilivitech' whereby the one that wrote it down may have made a mistake in the order of 'Lea'.
Ron Peeters (NL)


familyjaffa@...
 

It's almost definitely Lee Exlivitch.  I taught handwriting for many years, and it is quite clearly 'tch' at the end. Phthisis is a disease of the lungs mainly caught from birds. I think TB would have been written if that's  what it was. 
M. Jaffa
Manchester, UK

Researching
VALFER, GEISMAR, BECK, SCHMIDT(Mannheim)


rroth@...
 

I must agree with M. Jaffa about "tch", that makes much more sense.
But I will stick to my guns about phthisis meaning TB, not that anyone else asked. TB was seen by some as shameful, and this might have served as a euphemism.
The one from birds is psittacosis.
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Robert Roth
Kingston, NY
rroth@...


Sherri Bobish
 

Paula,

If you know what town your family originated from than you might look at records from that town and see if any surname look anything like the name written on the cert.  The handwriting is poor, and I'm sure that the name was written phonetically, at best.

Many databases of old records from various countries can be searched through JewishGen:
https://www.jewishgen.org/databases/

Good luck in your search,

Sherri Bobish

Searching: RATOWSKY / CHAIMSON (Ariogala / Ragola, Lith.)
WALTZMAN / WALZMAN (Ustrzyki Dolne / Istryker, Pol.)
LEVY (Tyrawa Woloska, Pol.)
LEFFENFELD / LEFENFELD / FINK, KALTER (Daliowa/ Posada Jasliska, Pol.)
BOJDA / BERGER (Tarnobrzeg, Pol.)
SOKALSKY / SOLON / SOLAN / FINGER(MAN) (Grodek, Bialystok, Pol.)
BOBISH / APPEL (Odessa?)


pbfleisher@...
 

Thank you to everyone who chimed in on my question and more (like Jacob's cause of death). Each observation and deliberation adds to the story I'm trying to discover. I'm landing on Eilovitch for now, and there are Eilovitch and Eilovtich-esque surnames in the Family Finder database, so I'll pursue more information with those researchers. Much appreciation for this knowledgeable, lively and generous community!
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Paula Fleisher
  • Yanov, Rosenthal, Eilovitch, Epstein (Nizhyn); Kaiser (Kiev?)
  • Salzman (Ekaterinburg); Fleisher (Bar and Berditchev)
  • Mitelman, Teper, Sznabel (Chelm)
  • Zhovtis (Vinnitsa)


Feige Stern
 

I'd like to offer my two cents about the name you were asking about.
It looks like Exlivideh to me.  
I put the name as a "sounds like" search into the Jewishgen unified search engine and got a few possibilities.
One was Axlevoda which sounds close to me.
The informant was may have had a strong accent which may have made Axle sound like Exl.

Good luck to you,

Feige Kauvar Stern
Cleveland, OH


robertcoontz
 

I read "Eylivitch", which is phonetically more likely than "Exlivitch" in Russian. A family tree on Ancestry.com says her first name was Lena, and she was born about 1824.

Robert Coontz
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