Szatmar, Hungary #hungary


barbara Schoenburg
 

A librarian at the Morman Library told me that in most likelihood Jewish people from Szatmar would be register at the nearest large town. I found loads of jewish birth records for Szatmarcseke in the back of the Catholic church records book in Feheryarmat that they had at the Morman Library. They included birth registration with parents names, address, ages, etc., a real treasure trove.

Barbara Schoenburg
Researching: Schwartz, Svarcz, Grunfield, Engel,
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Barbara Kozloff Schoenburg
Los Angeles, CA
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Avi Markovitz
 

Hi Barbara,

My late father Georg Markovits, was born in Szatmar (11/11/1928), I would  be more than happy to see those records. Is it possible and if so how?

Thank you
Avi Markovits
avi.markovitz@...
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Interested in: Markovits, Garay, Ehrenreich, Lubeck, Weisz, Herskovits
Hadad (hodod), Bajmok, Sopron, Alsoberekszo, Szatmat, Nagyvarad, Nagyszentmiklós (Sânnicolau Mare)
 


Valentin Lupu
 

Szatmarcseke is a town in Hungary, Feheryamat district in Szabolcz-Szatmar-Bereg county. Szatmar (or Szatmarnemety) also known by his Romanian name Satu Mare is a different town in north-western part of Romania. The records are kept in Satu Mare Archives,
Valentin Lupu
ISRAEL


Moishe Miller
 

Hello,

You may want to review an interesting website about SatuMare, maintained by George Elefant. The links I found within his website pages are (clickable links):
    1. Satu Mare Birth Registry

    2. Satu Mare Marriage Registry

    3. Satu Mare Cemeteries

    4. Satu Mare Memento

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Moishe Miller
Brooklyn, NY
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barbara Schoenburg
 

All Morman Libraries can access all the records available in Salt Lake from what I understand. Good Luck. The librarian said that the Szatmarecseke near Faheryarmat would probably be the most likely for Jews and she was right. 
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Barbara Kozloff Schoenburg
Los Angeles, CA
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Theo Rafael
 

Barbara,

These are two unrelated places, some 30 miles/ 45 km away from each other. Names in the area are very confusing because of multiple languages and changes over time.
Szatmar in Yiddish stands for Szatmarnemeti in Hungarian (see map) and was the main town in the county of Szatmar. Nowadays it's called Satu mare in Romanian and it lies on the river Somes.

What is called nowadays Szatmarcseke used to be called Cseke until the 20th century (see map), a small village in the county of Szatmar, on the river Tisza.
See the old Szatmar county map here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Szatm%C3%A1r_County.

If you're researching ancestors from the town of Szatmar, it's nowadays Satu Mare then. No relationship to the much smaller village of Cseke (whch happens to be called more recently Szatmarcseke) nor to the small town of Fehérgyarmat near the latter.

Best,
Theo Rafael


Avi Markovitz
 

Hi,
I'm familiar with George Elefant's website and database, I actually contacted him to ask him about the sources prior to my visit to Szatmar in 2020. He actually did a great job putting all that data together.
The only problem with the database is that it was not updated with new records since 2010.
So if you were lucky enough to find some of your ancestor's records that's great, but it will not ever update with new records.
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My regards
Avi Markovits
avi.markovitz@...
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Interested in: Markovits, Garay, Ehrenreich, Lubeck, Weisz, Herskovits
Hadad (hodod), Bajmok, Sopron, Alsoberekszo, Szatmat, Nagyvarad, Nagyszentmiklós (Sânnicolau Mare)
 


Dahirsh@...
 

Does anyone know what "Arh. de Stat" refers to in the source column and if the original source is available to be seen anywhere?

D. Hirsh


Susanna Vendel
 

Shortening of "Arhiva de Stat" = State archive
Susanna Vendel
Sweden