Finding family born Russian Poland #records #unitedkingdom


Paul Beek
 

Hello subscribers

How do I go about finding Jewish family who was born in Russian Poland, only so far know that he was born about 1847.
He later lived in the UK at least in 1871.
Thanks all for your kind help
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with best regards

Paul Beek
the Netherlands
paulbeek_1956@...


jlevy2008@...
 

Hello Paul,

Do you mean that you would like to establish the specific town/city/village in Russian Poland from whence they came?

I would first urge you to provide the details (names, ages and location) of the family that you have found in the 1871 census. 

The first step would be to try to trace the family through the other censuses up till 1911. If you're lucky, a more specific place of birth may have been recorded in one of the years.

The other thing to investigate would be naturalisation records. You can search for these on the website of the UK's National Archives. The National Archives

Did this family have any children with them, i.e. born in Russian Poland, who then later married in the UK? If this is the case, it will be worthwhile investigating whether a so-called marriage authorisation is held in the archives of either the United Synagogue or the Federation of Synagogues, whose chief rabbis issued such authorisations to permit a couple to marry in a synagogue. The MA should specify the place of birth of both groom and bride. I can provide more details later.

Regards,

Justin Levy
(Dubai)


l.m.constantine@...
 

Justin Levy

Thank you this information is also useful for me as I am chasing my tail trying to find the origins of Simeon Greenberg and Lasurus Samson 

Lynda Constantine 


Jill Whitehead
 

For UK, use the UK censuses - e.g. 1871 - which are on Findmypast and Ancestry. 

If your ancestor naturalised, Ancestry has naturalisations for 1870 to 1916 under Travel and Migration. These give the shtetl of origin in most cases. 

There are also specific databases like the Leeds Jews database online, and various cemetery databases (e.g. UK wide or Scotland wide).

If your ancestor was around in 1871 they may have come from the Suwalki Lomza gubernias in NE Poland (near the Baltic) where there was a lot of migration between 1865 and 1875 to Northern England and Scotland. Some of these migrants also went to or via France (Paris), Sweden, Netherlands and other intermediate stops. 

DNA testing may give you matches also.

For Poland use the JRI Poland website - and Litvak SIG for areas that changed hands between Poland and Lithuania.

Jill Whitehead, Surrey, UK


Emily Rosenberg
 

There used to be a wonderful printed magazine called The Landsman about Sulwalki Jewish people. I have a good collection of them and might be able to do a name search for you. 
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Emily Rosenberg
Oakland, California

KESNER in Amsterdam, London, Chicago
STODEL in Amsterdam, London, USA
KAWIN in Suwalki and Poland
RUBINSKY in Suwalki and Poland


Emily Rosenberg
 

Think about name variations too. My Lasurus from Suwalki Russian Poland was also listed as Leyzer and Lazarus. 
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Emily Rosenberg
Oakland, California

KESNER in Amsterdam, London, Chicago
STODEL in Amsterdam, London, USA
KAWIN in Suwalki and Poland
RUBINSKY in Suwalki and Poland


l.m.constantine@...
 

Thank you everyone lots to go on here. 

I have found naturalisation papers for both Lazarus Samson and Simeon Greenberg from The National Archives collection but even they are not clear about their place of origin 

Lynda Constantine