Suwalki #poland #russia


dougjug@...
 

Hello,

I have been trying to contact the Suwalk-Lomza Interest Group to join and purchase copies of the publication of their journal the Landsmen,
to learn more about my great-grandparents who emigrated from the Suwalki region in 1876 to Detroit, Michigan.
 
Following the directions on the joining/membership page,  I sent a check for membership and back issue request of the Landsmen about three months ago and
have never heard back.  Also my check was never cashed. 

Is the Suwalk-Lomza Interest group still active?
Are there any digital copies of the Landsmen available?

Thank you,
Doug Davis
Madison, Wisconsin
 


Sally Bruckheimer <sallybruc@...>
 

"I have been trying to contact the Suwalk-Lomza Interest Group to join and purchase copies of the publication of their journal the Landsmen,
to learn more about my great-grandparents who emigrated from the Suwalki region in 1876 to Detroit, Michigan."

The SIG no longer active and doesn't publish the Landsmen journal any more. I don't know what has happened or who (if anyone) is looking at letters.  Since they didn't cash your check, I would recommend stopping payment on it, and, perhaps sending a message to the SIG that you are still interest.

There have never been digital copies as far as I know.

I'm sorry that it has come to this, as it was a valuable group, but check on JRI-Poland.org, as much of the information is there as well. Jewishgen.org also has some.

Sally Bruckheimer
Princeton, NJ


Jill Whitehead
 

The owner of the Landsmen printed publication decided to call it a day about three years ago or so. I understand some of the Suwalki data (not Lomza) has been deposited with Litvak SIG from the information on that website. Unfortunately copyright is vested with the owner of the publication and the owner or her representatives have said that copying of it is not allowed.

Litvak SIG sends out specific Suwalki area data if you pay them 100 $ (covers three year period). And some of the data is on JRI Poland too. Some of us also submitted our own data to Landsmen collected in Suwalki Record office itself (for which we paid) over time.

The SIG only published in printed not digital form, and some of us did voluntary research for it when asked to by the owner. It would help if the info could be digitised but this requires the permission of the owner. Copies of Landsmen can be viewed in specific libraries, which seem to be mainly University libraries in certain cities in the US (I do not know which these are). 

I understand that Litvak SIG is trying to set up a Suwalki Birds of a Feathers group at the moment (not including Lomza), under its new coordinator.

Jill Whitehead, ex UK rep on Landsmen Editorial Board 


elkus@...
 

Doug, some of the functionality of that group can be found at the Suwalk-Lomza Independent Genealogy Research Group on Facebook:  https://www.facebook.com/groups/578018456155794

Both Detroit and nearby Windsor Ontario received many Suwalki immigrants (and Cincinnati too); including my great-grandparents.

Bill Elkus
Los Angeles, CA
Researching ELKUS, BARNETT/BONOWICZ, GOLDBERG/BRANICKI, ROTHENBERG, ROSENTHAL all from Suwalki.  ELKUS also from Paberze


Carol Hoffman
 

LitvakSIG Suwalki Gubernia Research Group has extensive information for shtetlach in the area. Follow the link in the previous sentence and you will see the list of the shtetlach. A contribution of $100 entitles one to five years access to all previous excel sheets and all new information that is circulated 18 months prior to upload on the ALD All Lithuania Database.

Carol Hoffman
LitvakSIG President


Stanley Diamond
 

Given that this topic has once again appeared in JewishGen posts, I am 
repeating a message I previously posted on this topic.  A short update 
has also been inserted in the text.

Extract of original post of Thu, 14 May 2020 16:36:02 EDT 

There have been  several posts in the past few days about the Suwalk-Lomza 
journal “Landsmen” so I would like to share some history as to how this topic 
relates to JRI-Poland.
 
In 1994, in a phone call to Marlene Silverman (editor of Landsmen), I
proposed the idea of a coordinated volunteer "indexing project" and, at 
her request, submitted a detailed plan. In a subsequent letter, I talked 
about multiple people collaborating on indexing the records for their towns. 
 
In the end, Marlene considered my proposal a dream for which it would
be impossible to find sufficient volunteers to make it a reality and for
which she had no time to be involved. (Later, some of us concluded that 
she may have feared that sharing data electronically might diminish the 
importance of her Landsmen journal.)
 
   (At this point, it is important for me to mention that I will always be deeply 
   indebted to Marlene.  The very first edition of the Landsmen journal 
   (1990) had a Family Finder posting by Michael Richman (Maryland) 
   who was looking for others sharing his roots in Ostrów Mazowiecka.
   When the journal was brought to my attention two years later, I quickly
   telephoned Michael. He mentioned the "notes" he had made on 250 
   families [including mine] using the LDS microfilms.). 
 
My December 1994 letter to Marlene was copied to fourteen others with
roots in Lomza Gubernia and few months later,  Michael Tobias and
Steve Zedeck turned my embryo of an idea into an email searchable
index that preceded our website on the Internet. All of us with roots in 
Poland owe Michael and Steve a huge debt of gratitude for their initiative.  
 
In the early years, JRI-Poland reached out to Marlene with a request to 
share Landsman data but she was unwilling to do so. Then in 1997, 
after signing our initial agreement with the Polish State Archives to 
formalize our relationship, we were able to hire an archivist in Poland 
to create professional indices (including father's name) to all the records 
for towns in both the Lomza and Suwalki branches of the archives.  
Many of these indices have now been extended into extracts and the 
work continues. [Update:  the records for most Lomza towns have now 
been full extracted and will be uploaded as funding for each town's 
records has been completed.]  In addition, JRI-Poland has created
data from Books of Residents, Army Draft files, Notarial files, missing
and fallen soldiers in WWI, etc.  
 
Just as JRI-Poland gave a home to the valuable material in the excellent
Kielce-Radom SIG Journal https://jri-poland.org/kr-sig/krsig_index.htm 
following publication of its final edition in 2004, we offered to welcome
the Suwalki-Lomza Landsmen Journal and to bring its valuable articles 
and information to our wide audience.  We continue to be ready to do so.

Stanley Diamond, M.S.M.   
Co-founder and Executive Director, Jewish Records Indexing - Poland, Inc.

 
 


David Brostoff
 

On Nov 19, 2021, at 1:05 PM, Stanley Diamond via groups.jewishgen.org <SMSDIAMOND=AOL.COM@...> wrote:

[Update: the records for most Lomza towns have now
been full extracted and will be uploaded as funding for each town's
records has been completed.]
Could you please explain the funding part of this?

Which towns have records that have still not been uploaded?

Thank you,

David Brostoff
Berkeley, California


Carol Hoffman
 

LitvakSIG has an extensive database searchable on the ALD All Lithuania Database for the Suwalki Gubernia. A contribution of $100 entitles one to five full years of access to all of the excel sheets in the Suwalki Gubernia and also the Collective Data Page.
There has never been any sharing or cooperation between Landsmen and LitvakSIG.

Carol Hoffman
LitvakSIG President


Lee Jaffe
 

For those looking for issues of the Landsmen, worldcat.org has records of library holdings worldwide.  If you enter your location information, it will rank libraries closest to you.  I've made a publicly accessible list at 
https://www.worldcat.org/profiles/ldjaffe/lists/4077733
Over the life of Landsmen there were several variations in the cover title, which caused Library of Congress to create three distinct records for the journal.  You have to look under all three records separately to see all the holdings.

--

Lee David Jaffe

Surnames / Towns:  Jaffe / Suchowola, Poland ; Stein (Sztejnsapir) / Bialystok and Rajgrod, Poland ; Joroff (Jaroff, Zarov) / Chernigov, Ukraine ; Schwartz (Schwarzman?, Schwarzstein?) / ? ;  Koshkin / Snovsk, Ukraine ; Rappoport / ? ; Braun / Wizajny, Suwalki, Poland,  Ludwinowski / Wizajny, Suwalki, Poland