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Need help in Locating Manifest for Aron Gordon #records
Michele Lock
I found the Declaration of Intention (to become a citizen) for Aron Gordon, which is on a separate page than the petition for naturalization: https://www.ancestry.com/discoveryui-content/view/6471831:2280?tid=&pid=&queryId=3445a4cc2a7d2583d8d22a6a4004c3bf&_phsrc=Bbk2056&_phstart=successSource
In the Declaration, Aron Gordon says quite clearly that he was born in Minsk, and that his last residence was Minsk. He says his wife Ida was born in Vilna, though that could mean either the city of Vilnius, or the province of Vilna. Either way, Aron is himself clearly not from Lithuania. It is possible that it was the St. Louis that Aron traveled on, but not in the year 1905. I've seen too many times where an immigrant does have the correct ship, but the wrong year. I always search year +/1 2 years, at least. My other suggestion would be to first gather together every US document you can find on this couple, and then try to figure out if or how you are related to them. -- Michele Lock Lak/Lok/Liak/Lock and Kalon/Kolon in Zagare/Joniskis/Gruzdziai, Lithuania Lak/Lok/Liak/Lock in Plunge/Telsiai in Lithuania Rabinowitz in Papile, Lithuania and Riga, Latvia Trisinsky/Trushinsky/Sturisky and Leybman in Dotnuva, Lithuania Olitsky in Alytus, Suwalki, Poland/Lithuania Gutman/Goodman in Czestochowa, Poland Lavine/Lev/Lew in Trenton, New Jersey and Lida/Vilna gub., Belarus |
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Raina Accardi
If you browse the passenger lists by date the St. Louis did arrive in NY on 19 Feb 1905. However, it sailed from Southhampton, not Liverpool. There is an Arie Zackin age 30 carpenter from Minsk. A few people above him are Scolnik, which is the surname of one of the witnesses on his NA papers. He was going to his brother Moische Zackin 329 Jackman st. Brooklyn.
Others of interest were Joseph Gordonovitz 19 painter from Vilna and sister Bashe going to brother Philip/Wolf 95 Christie st. NYC, and Aron Abramovitz 21 and brother Sam going to brother Mendel at 283 E 4th st NYC, but their last residence was Manchester, and were confectioners. There could be others that fit the bill. You need to look page by page. It helps to know his family and friends, and where they lived, to confirm if you have the right person. The ship that arrived on the same day that was from Liverpool was the Campania. You could look through that one as well. -- Raina Accardi Saugerties, NY RAgenealogy@... Poland: GEVIRTZMAN in Kobylin; JESINOWITZ/YESNOWITZ in Mszczonów; FELSENSTEIN in Parysów. Belarus: GUTTWOCH/GOODMAN and ZISSERMAN in Volchin; BUSHMITZ in Vysokaye. Ukraine: TRAUB and JANOVSKY in Kolki, Sofievka, Radomysl, and Zhytomyr; WEISMAN or ROSENBERG. |
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Feige Stern
Hi Ann,
I did a little hunting for you on ancestry and found an Aron Gorsman who was detained, arriving on 1/24/05 on the St. Louis to NY. I'm not sure if it is him and you might want to go back and see if you can find him in the earlier pages of the manifest. I ran out of time. I also checked the 3/20/05 arrival of the St. Louis into NY. I recommend using the card catalogue on ancestry to pull up the ship records and paging through to see if you can find him. The naturalization record you posted gives a date but the St. Louis did not come to NY on that date. So I looked at the Morton Allan directory to find out what dates the St. Louis did arrive into NY. In 1905 those are listed as: 1/22/05 3/20/05 4/16/05 5/14/05 6/10/05 7/8/05 8/12/05 9/9/05 10/7/05 11/5/05 12/3/05 When you enter the dates, sometimes you have to adjust them a day or two later. It's a tedious process but sometimes that's what you need to do. Good luck, Feige Kauvar Stern Cleveland, OH |
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Odeda Zlotnick
Please check the file you uploaded as it appears here in your message, after you uploaded it.
It looks totally illegible to me -- can you read it when you click on the image in your message? Petitions contain birth information, and travel information - about the ship on which the person arrived. Minsk it totally inland in Belarus, no oceangoing ship would travel from there to the US. -- Odeda Zlotnick Jerusalem, Israel. |
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aineumann@...
I am having an impossible time locating the manifest for Aron Gordon. I am trying to figure out how we are related and hope his manifest will offer the clues to understand our relationship. I have a copy of his Naturalization Petition but am unable to find the ship, St. Louis, that traveled on the day/year listed on the petition. He was married to Ida (maiden name Siegel, I think) and had two children prior to traveling to NYC. He had a third child with Ida in NYC. I do not know if he traveled with Ida and his two children or they came later. The petition says he traveled from Minsk. I believe he was originally from Lithuania. His date of birth is ABT. 1872. He died on 10/19/1955 and is buried in Mount Carmel Cemetery in Glendale NY.
Thank you, Ann Neumann aineumann@... |
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