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Name equivalent? #names
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Steven Usdansky
Please don't be too hard on me. I'm well aware that there's no standard Americanization of a Hebrew/Yiddish name. However... in my father's family, the Americanizations seem to follow "convention." Moshe became Morris; Rifka became Rebecca, Chaim became Hyman, Hersh became Harry, Mordechai became Max, etc.... The Americanized name I'm looking to looking to conventionally convert back to Hebrew/Yiddish is Helen. By process of elimination, I don't believe the original was either Chane or Chaje, as Helen had living sisters by those names when she was born. For what it's worth, Chane became Anna, and Chaje became Ida.
-- Steven Usdansky usdanskys@... USDANSKY (Узданский): Turec, Kapyl, Klyetsk, Nyasvizh, Slutsk, Grosovo SINIENSKI: Karelichy, Lyubcha, Navahrudak NAMENWIRTH: Bobowa, Rzepiennik SIGLER: "Minsk" |
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Odeda Zlotnick
Hinda? Hodl?
-- Odeda Zlotnick Jerusalem, Israel. |
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Diane Jacobs
Try Chana. Diane Jacobs
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On Aug 17, 2022, at 2:00 PM, Odeda Zlotnick <odedapri@...> wrote:
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Diane Jacobs
It should have read Chava not Chana.
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These phone’s have a mind of their own. Diane Jacobs On Aug 17, 2022, at 4:11 PM, Diane Jacobs <geniediane@...> wrote:
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Rodney Eisfelder
Steven,
I don't believe there can be a single answer to what Hebrew/Yiddish name became Helen, but here is a selection from a Ketubah index for marriages dated between 1854 and 1946, here in Australia and where the "english" name of the bride was Helen or Helene: Hela (האלע), Leah (לאה), Henle(twice) (הינלא), Hinda (הינדא), Chaya (חיה) I hope this helps, Rodney Eisfelder Melbourne, Australia |
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ramot418@...
In my father's family, there are Helens whose Yiddish name is Elka (עלקא)
----------------------------------------------------------------------- Steve Goldberg Jerusalem, Israel Researching: Sagan/Shagan family from Veliuona (Velon), Lithuania Goldberg family from Vidukle, Lithuania Susselovitch/Zuselovitch family from Raseiniai (Rassein), Lithuania |
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Alan Cohen
One of my wife's cousins called herself Helen when she arrived in the USA. Her Polish/Hebrew name was Gendla or Genendla.
Alan Cohen
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Sarah L Meyer
Have you tried the Given names database at Jewishgen.org? You can do a search from "foreign" to "European". Note that the answers will vary depending on the country where your ancestor originated. So be sure to set the country in Europe (and the foreign country as well). I believe that is now listed as one of the general databases.
-- Sarah L Meyer Georgetown TX ANK(I)ER, BIGOS, KARMELEK, PERLSTADT, STOKFISZ, SZPIL(T)BAUM, Poland BIRGARDOVSKY, EDELBERG, HITE (CHAIT), PERCHIK Russia (southern Ukraine) and some Latvia or Lithuania https://www.sarahsgenies.com |
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Steven Usdansky
Thank you everyone for your responses. With some more research, I'm drawn to the conclusion that Helen was not actually a new person in my family tree, but was the the person previously-identified as Chane. If true, it means Chana/Helen dropped 8 years off her age between the 1874 Belarus Revision listing and the first record I have of her in the US (1910 census; Helen claimed to be 37). If the 1910 census is to be believed, Helen would have had her first child back in Europe at age 17. It seem more likely to me that Helen's first child was born when Helen was 25 years old. For what is worth Helen's age shows up as 41 in 1915, and 43 in 1920; I cannot find her in any later censuses.
-- Steven Usdansky usdanskys@... USDANSKY (Узданский): Turec, Kapyl, Klyetsk, Nyasvizh, Slutsk, Grosovo SINIENSKI: Karelichy, Lyubcha, Navahrudak NAMENWIRTH: Bobowa, Rzepiennik SIGLER: "Minsk" |
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sharon yampell
My former mother in law’s name was Helene, pronounced Helen and her Hebrew name was Hensha
Sharon F. Yampell Researcher #128890 Marlton, NJ
From: Sarah L Meyer
Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2022 12:27 PM To: main@... Subject: Re: [JewishGen.org] Name equivalent? #names
Have you tried the Given names database at Jewishgen.org? You can do a search from "foreign" to "European". Note that the answers will vary depending on the country where your ancestor originated. So be sure to set the country in Europe
(and the foreign country as well). I believe that is now listed as one of the general databases.
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Annette Weiss
My maternal great grandmother's name was Helen, and her Hebrew Name was YEHUDIT.
Annette Weiss aweissny@... Searching for: Wajs/Weiss, Pakula, and Dziedzinsky (Poland/Russia) Teiksler/Teicksler, Zweifler, Kessler and Schwartz (Stanislawow, now Ivano-Frankivsk in Ukraine Siegel/Segal and Katz (Suwalki region in Lithuania) |
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