Name equivalent? #names


Annette Weiss
 

My maternal great grandmother's name was Helen, and her Hebrew Name was YEHUDIT.

Annette Weiss
aweissny@...
Searching for:
Wajs/Weiss, Pakula, and Dziedzinsky (Poland/Russia)
Teiksler/Teicksler, Zweifler, Kessler and Schwartz (Stanislawow, now Ivano-Frankivsk in Ukraine
Siegel/Segal and Katz (Suwalki region in Lithuania)


sharon yampell
 

My former mother in law’s name was Helene, pronounced Helen and her Hebrew name was Hensha

 

Sharon F. Yampell

Researcher #128890

Marlton, NJ

 

From: Sarah L Meyer
Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2022 12:27 PM
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Subject: Re: [JewishGen.org] Name equivalent? #names

 

Have you tried the Given names database at Jewishgen.org?  You can do a search from "foreign" to "European".  Note that the answers will vary depending on the country  where your ancestor originated.  So be sure to set the country in Europe (and the foreign country as well).  I believe that is now listed as one of the general databases.
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Sarah L Meyer
Georgetown TX
ANK(I)ER, BIGOS, KARMELEK, PERLSTADT, STOKFISZ, SZPIL(T)BAUM, Poland
BIRGARDOVSKY, EDELBERG, HITE (CHAIT), PERCHIK Russia (southern Ukraine) and some Latvia or Lithuania
https://www.sarahsgenies.com

 


Steven Usdansky
 

Thank you everyone for your responses. With some more research, I'm drawn to the conclusion that Helen was not actually a new person in my family tree, but was the the person previously-identified as Chane. If true, it means Chana/Helen dropped 8 years off her age between the 1874 Belarus Revision listing and the first record I have of her in the US (1910 census; Helen claimed to be 37). If the 1910 census is to be believed, Helen would have had her first child back in Europe at age 17. It seem more likely to me that Helen's first child was born when Helen was 25 years old.  For what is worth Helen's age shows up as 41 in 1915, and 43 in 1920; I cannot find her in any later censuses.

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Steven Usdansky
usdanskys@...
USDANSKY (Узданский): Turec, Kapyl, Klyetsk, Nyasvizh, Slutsk, Grosovo
SINIENSKI: Karelichy, Lyubcha, Navahrudak
NAMENWIRTH: Bobowa, Rzepiennik
SIGLER: "Minsk"


Sarah L Meyer
 

Have you tried the Given names database at Jewishgen.org?  You can do a search from "foreign" to "European".  Note that the answers will vary depending on the country  where your ancestor originated.  So be sure to set the country in Europe (and the foreign country as well).  I believe that is now listed as one of the general databases.
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Sarah L Meyer
Georgetown TX
ANK(I)ER, BIGOS, KARMELEK, PERLSTADT, STOKFISZ, SZPIL(T)BAUM, Poland
BIRGARDOVSKY, EDELBERG, HITE (CHAIT), PERCHIK Russia (southern Ukraine) and some Latvia or Lithuania
https://www.sarahsgenies.com


Alan Cohen
 

One of my wife's cousins called herself Helen when she arrived in the USA. Her Polish/Hebrew name was Gendla or Genendla.
 
Alan Cohen


ramot418@...
 

In my father's family, there are Helens whose Yiddish name is Elka (עלקא)
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Steve Goldberg
Jerusalem, Israel
Researching:
Sagan/Shagan family from Veliuona (Velon), Lithuania
Goldberg family from Vidukle, Lithuania
Susselovitch/Zuselovitch family from Raseiniai (Rassein), Lithuania


Rodney Eisfelder
 

Steven,
I don't believe there can be a single answer to what Hebrew/Yiddish name became Helen, but here is a selection from a Ketubah index for marriages dated between 1854 and 1946, here in Australia and where the "english" name of the bride was Helen or Helene:
Hela (האלע), Leah (לאה), Henle(twice) (הינלא), Hinda (הינדא), Chaya (חיה)

I hope this helps,
Rodney Eisfelder
Melbourne, Australia


Diane Jacobs
 

It should have read Chava not Chana.
These phone’s have a mind of their own.

Diane Jacobs


On Aug 17, 2022, at 4:11 PM, Diane Jacobs <geniediane@...> wrote:

Try Chana.  Diane Jacobs


On Aug 17, 2022, at 2:00 PM, Odeda Zlotnick <odedapri@...> wrote:

Hinda? Hodl?
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Odeda Zlotnick
Jerusalem, Israel.

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Diane Jacobs, Somerset, New Jersey

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Diane Jacobs, Somerset, New Jersey


Diane Jacobs
 

Try Chana.  Diane Jacobs


On Aug 17, 2022, at 2:00 PM, Odeda Zlotnick <odedapri@...> wrote:

Hinda? Hodl?
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Odeda Zlotnick
Jerusalem, Israel.

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Diane Jacobs, Somerset, New Jersey


Odeda Zlotnick
 

Hinda? Hodl?
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Odeda Zlotnick
Jerusalem, Israel.


Steven Usdansky
 

Please don't be too hard on me. I'm well aware that there's no standard Americanization of a Hebrew/Yiddish name. However... in my father's family, the Americanizations seem to follow "convention." Moshe became Morris; Rifka became Rebecca, Chaim became Hyman, Hersh became Harry, Mordechai became Max, etc.... The Americanized name I'm looking to looking to conventionally convert back to Hebrew/Yiddish is Helen. By process of elimination, I don't believe the original was either Chane or Chaje, as Helen had living sisters by those names when she was born. For what it's worth, Chane became Anna, and Chaje became Ida.

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Steven Usdansky
usdanskys@...
USDANSKY (Узданский): Turec, Kapyl, Klyetsk, Nyasvizh, Slutsk, Grosovo
SINIENSKI: Karelichy, Lyubcha, Navahrudak
NAMENWIRTH: Bobowa, Rzepiennik
SIGLER: "Minsk"