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Wendy Kalman
I've asked for help in Facebook groups, but the mystery still remains.
Two of fours siblings were Anna Rabinovitch (nee Kelmansky) and May (or Mae) Kelmansky. I turned to a FB group when I was only able to track them until 1955 and 1954 respectively. After I posted int he group, I actually found a record I think was Anna's, indicating she passed away in 1972 in Westchester (as Rabinovitch, which tells me she didn't remarry), but I think I have to purchase the Social Secrity record to know for sure it is her (I also still do not know where she is buried). No newspaper accounts I can find.
There is a family plot at Cedar Park Cemetery in NJ, where Anna's late husband Morris is buried, but she is not. Only 5 of 16 plots were ever used. The others are filled with Anna and May's brother Irving, his wife, one of the their sons and the son's wife.
My bigger mystery is with sister May, who filed for social security in 1951 at age 64. She retired from being a nurse due to injury many years before, and later it looks like she wrote for a communist newspaper for afew years. I have much documentation of her life, although less so in the 1940s. The last I have is in 1954 she appears in a directory; she was living on East 9th St. then (as she had when she aplied for Social Security). She was never married.
I have tried looking for marriage or death records and have come up blank. Since May went to pre-state Israel in 1918 for a year as a nurse with the American Zionist Medical Unit and a fictional piece of writing talks about an ad placed in a Hebrew newspaper by nurse M. Kelmansky who says she is leaving but will come back (I'v actually reached out to the archivist who has the writer's papers to see if there are notes where that came from!) -- anyway, a small part of me wonders if she could've emigrated to live out the end of her life, but I do not know how to check that, especially if she changed her name on arrival. But I did check Israeli cemeteries and did not find any May Kelmansky.
I don't need help going backwards but in trying to figure out where they went since, that is, May Kelmansky after 1954 and if there is any way to find where Anna is buried, as she is not with her husband in her family's plot. Thank you SO MUCH for any help anyone can provide. Wendy Kalman Acworth, GA wendybkalman@... 1. KELMANSKY-- Odessa, Ladyzhyn and Pogrebishche. 2. MALKIS & COHEN -- Odessa and maybe Ladyzhyn 3. MARKOFF/MARKOW and HIRSCHBURG, Odessa 4. GERSHBERG -- Berdichev and then Odessa + KRAPEL, Odessa. 5. BURDA -- Berdynovo, Tiraspol Uezd, Odessa oblast 6. TEPLITSKY -- Mogilev-Podolsky 7. BERG -- Berdichev, Kamenets-Podolsky and Mogilev-Podolsky. 8. BRAUN- Panyola, Hungary and Bixad, Romania. 9. IZSAK - Bixad 10. NEULINGER (once NEILINGER) -- Timisoara, Romania. |
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Sherri Bobish
Wendy,
This is probably May appearing as MB KELMANSKY at 21 E. 9th Street in 1948 and 1960 telephone book (info on Ancestry.com) It was common for females to only use their initials in the phone books. I suggest tracking May, or MB, through Manhattan telephone directories post-1960 to see when she disappears from the listings. Also, have you seen the photo of May on her passport application? May Kelmansky U.S., Passport Applications, 1795-1925 (database on Ancestry.com) Good luck in your search, Sherri Bobish Searching: RATOWSKY / CHAIMSON (Ariogala, Lith.); LEFFENFELD / FINK / KALTER (Daliowa & Jasliska, Pol.) BOJDA / BLEIWEISS (Tarnow & Tarnobrzeg, Pol.); WALTZMAN / WALZMAN (Ustrzyki Dolne, Pol.) LEVY (Tyrawa Woloska, Pol.); SOLON / SOLAN / SOKOLSKY (Grodek, Bialystok, Pol.) BOBISH / BLUMENKRANZ / APPEL / WEINER / ROSENBERG (Vysoko-Litovsk, Brest, Biala Podlaska) |
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Robert Hanna
Anna's death certificate should have the cemetery where she is buried. You can get the certificate from the NYS Dept of Health in Albany NY.
Robert Hanna NYC Researching: CHANAN/HANAN/HANNE/HEINE/HINEY (Warsaw, Poland); BLUMENBLAT (Sarnaki, Poland); KARASIK, THOMASHOW/TOMOSHOFF, COHEN (Babruysk, Belarus); RUBINSTEIN, BUNDEROFF, PASTILNIK, NEMOYTEN, DISKIN (Minsk, Belarus). |
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Renee Steinig
Wendy, in your inquiry about sisters Anna Kelmansky Rabinovitch and May (or Mae) Kelmansky, you wrote that <<I actually found a record I think was Anna's, indicating she passed away in 1972 in Westchester (as Rabinovitch, which tells me she didn't remarry), but I think I have to purchase the Social Security record to know for sure it is her. (I also still do not know where she is buried.)>> I assume that the record you referred to is this listing in the Social Security Death Index:
Good chance that she's the right Anna as the birth date matches her naturalization record. A reminder: The location shown in the SSDI is the decedent's last residence, which is not necessarily the place of death. Someone residing in Scarsdale could easily have died in nearby New York City, in which case the record would not be filed with NY State, or elsewhere. I've also seen instances where the zip code isn't even the decedent's, but that of a family member to whose address the monthly Social Security check was mailed, pre-direct deposit. Also wondering... Could the Anna Rabinovitch listed in the SSDI be the same one who is buried at Baron Hirsch Cemetery? I realize that Anna wasn't a "Galitzianer," but that doesn't rule out burial in a Galician landsmanshaft section. I'd want to try to get a photo of the grave to see the Hebrew patronymic that's hopefully there. (Emphasis on the word "try," because, as the note on JOWBR indicates, many stones at Baron Hirsch are inaccessible.) If you do send to the NY State Dept. of Health for a death record, wait a few months -- i.e. until 50 years after filing -- to be eligible for an uncertified copy of the record. https://www.health.ny.gov/vital_records/genealogy.htm Renee On Sun, Aug 21, 2022 at 11:21 AM Robert Hanna <robert.hanna41@...> wrote: Anna's death certificate should have the cemetery where she is buried. You can get the certificate from the NYS Dept of Health in Albany NY. |
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Diane Jacobs
One thing comes to mind, since her last residence was Scarsdale NY ,place I lived in for many years, the reference librarian at the Scarsdale Public Library could do a lookup for you in the Scarsdale Inquirer , the local paper for an obituary and you could also check The NY Times which can be obtained using Proquest at your local library for the same info .
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Residing in Scarsdale , she could have died at the While Plains hospital in White Plains NY which is just a few minutes drive. Also keep in mind that although she had a 10583 zip code, she could have actually been in New Rochelle or Yonkers NY as some Residences there have Scarsdale mailing addresses. Good luck. Diane Jacobs On Aug 21, 2022, at 1:21 PM, Renee Steinig <genmaven@...> wrote:
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FWIW, a friend found an obituary notice for me at newspapers.com, along with a few other articles related to the family in question.
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