Revocation of my mother’s German citizenship - help please … #germany


Robin Greenwood <robinomshanti@...>
 

Can someone please help me obtain a copy of the record of my mother’s having had her German citizenship revoked by the National Socialists. I need it to attach to my application for German citizenship.

I understand that JewishGen holds these records and a search on the main site indicates that one record is held in my mother’s name. What isn’t clear is how I can obtain a copy of this record. 

Please advise me. Thank you.

Robin Greenwood, Lowestoft, England.


Odeda Zlotnick
 

On Tue, Nov 22, 2022 at 09:23 PM, Robin Greenwood wrote:
I understand that JewishGen holds these records and a search on the main site indicates that one record is held in my mother’s name.
JewishGen does "hold" the documents.  But if you go back to the page where you found the name, and click on the name of the database, you'll find information about who holds the documents and how to ordrer copies.
 
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Odeda Zlotnick
Jerusalem, Israel.


Robin Greenwood <robinomshanti@...>
 

Thank you. I did try. I emailed the researcher identified with no response. I will try again.
Robin Greenwood


David Seldner
 

What kind of document is it? My father also had his citizenship revoked but there is no document stating it. He left Germany in 1940 and his passport shows the  exit permit and the visa to Italy (from where they took the ship to the US). When I applied for German cititzenship I gave them a copy of his passport and I assume that they did the research themselves.
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David Seldner, Karlsruhe, Germany
seldner@...


Maurine McLellan
 

I have several birth certificates from Germany with a stamp added in 1939-1944 revoking citizenship for that person. Then there is a second stamp added after the war reinstating the person's citizenship. 
Maurine Bothmann McLellan
Stilwell, Kansas, U.S.
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Odeda Zlotnick
 

Correction: I meant to write the JewishGen does not "hold" documents - as far as I know.  It indexes them. And usually, gives details of the source for those indexes.
For example:
One of my great grandfathers was mentioned in this database: Jewish Names in Selected U.S. State Department Files (RG59), 1910-1929 (jewishgen)
 The description page contains instructions about obtaining the documents.
I hope you can find something similar on the description page of the database on which you found your mother's name.
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Odeda Zlotnick
Jerusalem, Israel.


alejandro@...
 

What was her name?

Alejandro T. Rubinstein
Mexico City, Mexico


mutticampbell@...
 

We have been through the citizenship process without a document revoking my father's citizenship. 
Birth certificates, marriage certificates and other documents such as passports demonstrate the previous citizenship and your relationship to them for the application.

Caroline Campbell


Dan Nussbaum
 

All I had to show was my father's American citizenship papers. They assumed correctly that he took on an American citizenship because he had lost his German citizenship.

Daniel Nussbaum II, M.D., FAAP
Retired Developmental Pediatrician
Rochester, New York
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JoAnne Goldberg
 

I began the restoration process two years ago and got citizenship earlier this year.  On the application form, I indicated that citizenship was revoked in 1935, and that was not questioned. In most cases, citizenship was not individually revoked -- all Jews were stripped of citizenship at the same time -- and thus there were no supporting documents.  I was able to get copies of other documents by requesting them from the records department of individual German cities.  Most of these records are not online.

Looking at the list of documents required (Anspruch Merkblatt) I don't see revocation of citizenship on there, but they might ask for it in specific situations, for example, if the individual got citizenship elsewhere before 1945.

Different consulates tend to handle the process differently. I had a very tough time with my local consulate, San Francisco, difficult to get information and appointments. It was definitely a hassle. But I'm glad I did it!

JoAnne

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