Looking for information on the families of TAL HURST and STONEMAN #unitedkingdom


l.a.m.buisman@...
 

Problem is, Tolhurst (or Talhurst) is not a dutch name at all.

I found her in the census 1911 as adopted daughter of George and Ada Stoneman, there are several Ancestry trees with her name. Her first name definitely not Dutch.
In a London election register and in the civil death register (birth 14 dec 1904) she has a middle name: Ellie. That is a dutch first name. I see no Ellie with a dutch surname, BUT:

There is the birth of an Elly Den Hartog-Jager, on the same page as Elly Jager. Registration Mar Qtr 1905 Edmonton, so that could be the registration of a birth in the last months of 1904.
This suggests a mother Jager who was not married to the father den Hartog, but someone registered the birth as if the mother called herself mrs. den Hartog-Jager. Or it was the father who registered the birth. Probably the certificate shows an amendment about the name-change into just Jager. The informant and the address of the birth could give clues.
The name den Hartog could originate from an ancestor Hartog. Jewish Hirsch - could that sound a bit like Hurst?.
A quick search for other records for an Elly den Hartog or (de) Jager: no results. Which could mean several things: they left England or the mother married someone else and the daughter was known by a new name, or the child was adopted and given a new first name.
With the first names in the birth certificate it is may be possible to find where father, mother and child went to. If this Elly never shows up anywhere, an adoption is likely.
The double surname den Hartog Jager also exists, but that would contradict the registration of Elly Jager.


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Loes Buisman, Amsterdam


Sherri Bobish
 

Frances,

A search at FreeBMD UK:
https://www.freebmd.org.uk/search
for births in 1904 for surname TALHURST (using a phonetic search on the surname) finds several with surname TOLHURST.

There are first names of the children listed.  The births in the index are listed quarterly (without exact month and date.)

Good luck in your search,
 
Sherri Bobish
 
Searching:  RATOWSKY / CHAIMSON (Ariogala, Lith.)
WALTZMAN (Ustrzyki Dolne, Pol.)
LEVY (Tyrawa Woloska, Pol.)
LEFFENFELD (Daliowa & Jasliska, Pol.)
BOJDA / BLEIWIESS (Tarnow & Tarnobrzeg, Pol.) 
SOKOLSKY / SOLON / SOLAN (Grodek, Bialystok, Pol.)
BOBISH (your guess is as good as mine!  LOL)


frances_miatt@...
 

Hi all, I am searching for info on the parents of my Grandmother, who was born in Highgate, London in 1904 to a young Dutch couple, possibly students, living in London. The only name I have for her parents is TAL HURST or TALHURST. I have never seen the name(s) in writing.

My Grandmother had to be given up for adoption and was adopted by an English family: STONEMAN and grew up in north London.

I'd be really grateful to find any information regarding adoptions within Jewish communities in the Highgate area in 1904 and about the descendants of George and Ada STONEMAN who later moved to Essex.

Thank you.

Frances Miatt