Need Help Finding Death and Burial Records #usa


Peter Cohen
 

My grandmother told me a similar story, except she was lying.

She claimed that when my grandfather came to meet her at Ellis Island, "they would not let me go with him because they were afraid of white slavery. We said 'It's alright, we are going to be married', so they said 'then get married. Right here, right now.' So, I was married on the dock. I was 14 years old."  
When I found her marriage record, she was married a month after she arrived. It was in Brooklyn, not Ellis Island, (which uses Manhattan certificates), and she was 26 years old.

So, there must have been people who had to get married on the dock. But I doubt my grandmother was one of them.  That generation lied a lot.
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Peter Cohen
California


Malcolm Blier
 

You can inquire on the NYC historical records site. The year of his death is not scanned - you can look on their Guide to see what is available for which borough iiin which years, but you'll find it needs to be ordered. Hopefully you have enough info for them to produce something. It could take 8 weeks, keep your order # handy as you may have to inquire re status as time elapses. I retrieved all 4 of my great-grtandparents' death notices, it's a good resource. If any inquiry is under the scanned years, you can download free.

https://a860-historicalvitalrecords.nyc.gov/


Mal Blier


Susan&David
 

Regarding marriage with an Ellis Island address. I found a case where a 26 year old man, accompanied by a 19 year old woman arrived  together from Russia.  She was described as "his intended wife" by the Board of Special Inquiry.  To make sure his intentions were honorable the authorities required them to be married  before they could gain admittance to the U.S. This took place the next day.  The marriage cert from City Hall gives Ellis Island as their address.  

David Rosen
Boston, MA.  

On 11/28/2022 8:24 PM, Michele Lock wrote:

I took a quick look on Ancestry to see how many persons named Sam Kaplan/Caplan there are in Brooklyn in 1950, born about 1892 - and there are about 20 of them. You could check through all those, to see if any might be your great uncle. Looks like you may have to search for all the Samuel listing separately.

Given that you show the children of Sam and Ida to have been born just after 1914, I checked through the NYC marriage records on FamilySearch, using the SteveMorse.org search page for these records. I found the July 1914 marriage certificate of Sam Kaplan and Chaye Paskovet (used the FamilySearch certificate number, then searched through the new NYC digital images using that number:

Ida's original Yiddish name was Chaya, which often was Americanized to Ida. The 1950 census does seem to fit your Sam and Ida, except for the woman's name being Yetta. Perhaps the census taker misheard her name. Or perhaps Ida had died. You could check through the NYC 1949-1965 death index, which is on Ancestry (just google to get to it) to see if you can find Ida. You can also check to see if Sam had died during those years as well.

The marriage certificate is interesting in other ways. It gives Chaya's address as Ellis Island - do you know why she apparently was detained there? Did Sam and Ida/Chaya know each other back in Russia? The marriage took place at City Hall in Manhatten. And Chaya signed her name in Russian.

Good luck with your searching.

Michele Lock


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Michele Lock
 

I took a quick look on Ancestry to see how many persons named Sam Kaplan/Caplan there are in Brooklyn in 1950, born about 1892 - and there are about 20 of them. You could check through all those, to see if any might be your great uncle. Looks like you may have to search for all the Samuel listing separately.

Given that you show the children of Sam and Ida to have been born just after 1914, I checked through the NYC marriage records on FamilySearch, using the SteveMorse.org search page for these records. I found the July 1914 marriage certificate of Sam Kaplan and Chaye Paskovet (used the FamilySearch certificate number, then searched through the new NYC digital images using that number:



Ida's original Yiddish name was Chaya, which often was Americanized to Ida. The 1950 census does seem to fit your Sam and Ida, except for the woman's name being Yetta. Perhaps the census taker misheard her name. Or perhaps Ida had died. You could check through the NYC 1949-1965 death index, which is on Ancestry (just google to get to it) to see if you can find Ida. You can also check to see if Sam had died during those years as well.

The marriage certificate is interesting in other ways. It gives Chaya's address as Ellis Island - do you know why she apparently was detained there? Did Sam and Ida/Chaya know each other back in Russia? The marriage took place at City Hall in Manhatten. And Chaya signed her name in Russian.

Good luck with your searching.

Michele Lock

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Sandy Kaplan Schepis
 

Hello!
 
My granduncle, Sam Kaplan, is giving me a run for my money, so I would welcome help finding his death and burial records.
 
Sam's parents were Yakov Mikhel Hacohen Kaplan and Hinda Rubnitz. He arrived at Ellis Island from Starobin, Minsk, now Belarus, in 1912. He married Ida Paskovat (various spellings) who arrived at Ellis Island from Slonim, Belarus in 1914. They had two children: Max Kaplan (1915-1992) and Anne Kaplan Stern (1916-1970).
 
I have been able to trace Sam pretty well though Federal and NYS censuses from 1915 -1940, but am not sure of what I have for the 1950 census where the ages fit the earlier DOB but the wife's name is Yetta instead of Ida. An easy mistake? They lived in Manhattan, Elizabeth, New Jersey and Brooklyn. 
 
I have searched in Ancestry, FamilySearch, Newspapers.com and others, but have not been able to find death and burial records or obituaries for Sam and Ida. Sam's naturalization papers list his DOB as October 12, 1896 but his ship manifest and all census records point to a DOB from 1891-1893. Sam is not buried near his son or daughter, nor does he appear to be buried in any of the large Jewish cemeteries in the New York metropolitan area. If I can find Sam, I am hoping that Ida will be right next to him!
 
I have posted links to the relevant 1940 and 1950 censuses below.
 
 
 
Thanks for your time and willingness to give this one a try!
 
Regards,
 
Sandy Kaplan Schepis