Are "Muni" and "Munya" nicknames? For what name? #names


stahlshifra
 

In my husband's family (from Kolomyya), Munya is Mordechai.
 
Shifra Stahl
 


de.ewenczyk@...
 

My father Samuel had two brothers : Osher / Oscar and Emmanuel. Their family lived not far from Minsk.
Their parent called them Sioma (Samuel), Ossia (Osher / Oscar) and Monia (Emmanuel).
So, Emmanuel is a possibility for Munia. 


Daniel Ewenczyk 
Paris, France
Searching Ewenczyk / Evenczyk (Bélarus), Rezepter (Ukraine), Elie (Romania)


Paul Gottlieb
 

My father was born in 1901. His home was in Kuty, Galicia, Austro-Hungary at the time, later Poland, now Ukraine.
His first name was Moses, probably Moishe. At some point, his nickname became Munio.
Perhaps revealingly, after he moved to Vienna and became a successful businessman, he formerly
changed his first name (in the mid-1930's) to Maximilian, the first name of a former Austro-Hungarian emperor. 
But his nickname always remained Munio, even after he came to America.
Happy to hear any thoughts about this or similar stories.

Paul Gottlieb
New York City
psgottlieb@...


Jerry Scherer
 

Here's my father's story. There are some similarities to Paul Gottlieb's father.

My father was born in 1909 in Kuty, Galicia. He lived and went to school in Vienna, Austria from 1920 until 1930. From 1930 to !941, he worked as an accountant in Stanislawow, Poland, In 1941, he was sent to Siberia by the Red Army. He worked there in the forced labor camps and in the munition factory until 1946. From 1946 to1949, we were in the DP camp in Hofgeismar, Germany. 

My father's Yiddish/Hebrew name was Moishe. Other names and nicknames used were Maurycy, Munya, Misha and Morris. He was always called by family and friends as Munya and Misha.


Jerry Scherer
Toronto, Canada


Gary
 

Now that we're wandering a bit further afield on names, I am reminded the same ggp who had the sister named Manya (or Maria) had another sister (Ida) whose husband apparently was killed in WWII serving in the Russian Army. Ida gave his name as "Musia" (or at least the name was translated that way) in the set of post-war letters I have. Wondering what Musia could be a nickname or variant of, as that might help me look up Ida's husband in the Russian Army databases.

Thanks,
Gary

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Gary Ehrlich
Rockville, MD
SCVIRSCI, Zhivotov, Ukraine; WASHLIKOVSKY/WASHALKOWSKY, SATER, Bialystock, Poland;
LIFSHITS/LIFSHITZ, GOROVITZ, HOROVITZ, Lvov, Ukraine; Ufa and Moscow, Russia
YAGUDA, Albany, NY


sjgwed@...
 

My interest in the name, "Moni," and variations is inspired by what I've been reading in the recently published Memorial Book of Skalat.

The stories in the book were recounted and recorded by survivors who gave their testimonies over time. I had read parts of the book online, previously, because Skalat is one of my ancestral homes, and I've been wondering about "Moni Lempert," "M. Lempert" (and other names for this man, who was a member of the Judenrat.) He, along with other "delegates, Nirler, Schoenberg," and "Zimmer: (aka "pillars of the Skalat Judenrat" met with "Muller," whom I believe was head of the Gestapo stationed in nearby Tarnopol.

My concern is... is this "Lempert" a relative of mine (even a distant one)? In 1942, when he was "responsible for the Labor office," he was instructed by the Gestapo to round up a certain number of Jews, and he "received a cash payment from the Judenrat for being the first to bring in all the people on his list: 100%.

My immediate family - maternal great grandparents, their 6 children - including my grandmother - all had left Galicia by the end of the 19th century. Their name, "Lempert," was soon changed to "Lambert." 

I have visited my great grandparents' graves in the "Skalater Section" of Mt. Zion cemetery in Maspeth, New York, and have confirmed that other Lemperts (and Lamberts) are buried there, too. But none has a name that begins with "M."

M. Lempert had been responsible for the deaths of other Jews, even though it's likely that he did not have a choice. He and other Judenrat members had been leaders in the ghetto, and in various testimonies, they are remembered as ones who "gained infamy by their evil acts."

What happened to him? Did he die in a camp? Did he survive the Holocaust and come to the US?...

How do we, as researchers and chroniclers of our families' pasts, handle this? Have other Jewish Genners run into this problem?

Thanks, already, for so many great responses. 

Susan Gordon
PS: you can read about my search for Muller online, in "'Hunting a Dead Nazi,' Susan J. Gordon."
sjgwed@...
www.becauseofeva.com
LEMPERT, SCHOENHAUT - Skalat, Lvov
BIALAZURKER - Zbaraz, Budapest


Henry Carrey Boston,MA . Carey/Kirzhner/Berestyaner , Belous , Isenberg - Lutsk ; Postolov/Herman/Kolovsky-Zhitomir
 

From looking at the Jewish Given names data bases in Jewish Gen and Ancestry for several countries such as Russia, Poland and Ukraine , the most common  male Hebrew names for Muni/Manya/Moni/Munke Mendl came out as 
Emanual , Menachem , Mordechai and Asher .  I could find only Marina as a female variant of Manya but no Yiddish or Hebrew derivation. . 

if Manya is a common nickname in Slavic countries  for Maria or Marina  , it might make sense that a Jewish woman might be given a non-Jewish local name like my friend , the singer Masha Benya , who was born at the beginning of the 20th century in Lithuania .  They might have been named after a relative named Miriam , Mirl or even Malka.  
--
Henry H. Carrey


Diane Jacobs
 

Using JOWBR on Jewishgen and FindAGrave
for other cemeteries in the NYC area, you might get lucky and find him in another cemetery.

Diane Jacobs


On Apr 13, 2021, at 4:29 PM, sjgwed via groups.jewishgen.org <sjgwed=aol.com@...> wrote:

My interest in the name, "Moni," and variations is inspired by what I've been reading in the recently published Memorial Book of Skalat.

The stories in the book were recounted and recorded by survivors who gave their testimonies over time. I had read parts of the book online, previously, because Skalat is one of my ancestral homes, and I've been wondering about "Moni Lempert," "M. Lempert" (and other names for this man, who was a member of the Judenrat.) He, along with other "delegates, Nirler, Schoenberg," and "Zimmer: (aka "pillars of the Skalat Judenrat" met with "Muller," whom I believe was head of the Gestapo stationed in nearby Tarnopol.

My concern is... is this "Lempert" a relative of mine (even a distant one)? In 1942, when he was "responsible for the Labor office," he was instructed by the Gestapo to round up a certain number of Jews, and he "received a cash payment from the Judenrat for being the first to bring in all the people on his list: 100%.

My immediate family - maternal great grandparents, their 6 children - including my grandmother - all had left Galicia by the end of the 19th century. Their name, "Lempert," was soon changed to "Lambert." 

I have visited my great grandparents' graves in the "Skalater Section" of Mt. Zion cemetery in Maspeth, New York, and have confirmed that other Lemperts (and Lamberts) are buried there, too. But none has a name that begins with "M."

M. Lempert had been responsible for the deaths of other Jews, even though it's likely that he did not have a choice. He and other Judenrat members had been leaders in the ghetto, and in various testimonies, they are remembered as ones who "gained infamy by their evil acts."

What happened to him? Did he die in a camp? Did he survive the Holocaust and come to the US?...

How do we, as researchers and chroniclers of our families' pasts, handle this? Have other Jewish Genners run into this problem?

Thanks, already, for so many great responses. 

Susan Gordon
PS: you can read about my search for Muller online, in "'Hunting a Dead Nazi,' Susan J. Gordon."
sjgwed@...
www.becauseofeva.com
LEMPERT, SCHOENHAUT - Skalat, Lvov
BIALAZURKER - Zbaraz, Budapest

--
Diane Jacobs, Somerset, New Jersey


Frank Schulaner
 

Since many of those nicknamed Muni were remembered as soccer/football players, could they have earned that nickname playing for the local--"municipal"--league?
--Frank Schulaner, Kealakekua HI


Barbara Singer
 

I do not know if they are nicknames, however, there was quite a famous
stage & film star - the Yuddish stage first -.  his stage name was Paul Muni.
His name was Muni Weisenfreund

Barbara Singer Meis