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are there benefits of the My Heritage site over Ancestry #general


harold.love@...
 

I don’t have enough facts about my ancestors or even my original surname. It certainly was not Love in the Pale. So, the wide net that you seem to really dislike can be helpful to people with significant brick walls. 


harold.love@...
 

I’ve never even seen a manifest on MH. 


Helen Gardner
 

Even though I regularly trawl through other sites looking for new information, many times now My Heritage has sent me useful hints. The most exciting hint enabled me to discover that a branch I thought had perished in the holocaust actually all survived in different places, and enabled me to track most of them. Other hints have also led to discoveries I didn’t find anywhere else. So I think they’re worth their weight in solid gold.

Helen Gardner

helen@...

 

 

 


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Helen Gardner

ancestral names, all from Poland, mostly Warsaw

AJGENGOLD/EIGENGOLD, BERCHOJER, BLANK, BIALOGORA, BLUMBERG, CHMIELNICKI, FELD, FERNEBOK/FERNSBUN, EDELMAN, FRYDMAN, GELDTRUNK, GURIN, ISSAKOWICH, LAKS, LERMAN, MALIS, MENDER/MONDER, MLYNARZ/MILLER, PODGORER/PODGORSKI, POPOWER, RAUTARBER/ROTGERBERG, RASTENBERG, POSSIBLY PRESSEIZEN


Jill Whitehead
 

In terms of DNA results, MyHeritage, 23andme and FTDNA are all vastly superior to Ancestry (and less expensive) in that the other companies give you the size of each chromosome segment you share, which Ancestry does not, and so Ancestry customers need to upload their genetic information to other companies or to Gedmatch in order to be able to make comparisons.  This is very frustrating as 9 times out of 10 people will not do this as they have spent their money on Ancestry without knowing what they are getting. Being able to compare the size of chromosome segment lengths is very important if you have Jewish ancestry, to determine the closeness of your relationship and how far back in time this goes. 

Jill Whitehead, Surrey, UK.


manderlie@...
 

I agree and it has the option to go online IF you want to do so. I don't but others do. So they use the appropriate settings. 
Susan Diamond


Max Heffler
 

Another benefit I have found from using geni, MyHeritage and Ancestry are photos. Many times an individual’s  photo will appear on only one of the sites.


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sonialipham368@...
 

Ancestry owns Family Tree Maker and no longer supports any problems


danbrockman@...
 

Geni is owned by My Heritage. My Heritage is owned by an Israeli company.

Geni is for those researchers who admire the concept of a World Tree of all people who have a name. Many comments above speak to duplicates. On Geni there are no duplicates. One person, one record, one set of relatives. If you add a person that is already on Geni you will get a duplication message and a request for a Merge. 

Geni is also integrated with GedMatch. 


sonialipham368@...
 

Check your settings as my subscription has never switched from English to anything else


Max Heffler
 

I think there is confusion in that many MyHeritage trees were entered in Hebrew and thus it presents them as entered. It does not change any local settings.

 

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Check your settings as my subscription has never switched from English to anything else

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Barbara Mannlein <bsmannlein@...>
 



INCORRECT:   McKiev bought FTM four years ago and supports it. 

Older versions (pre 2017) are not able to sync with Ancestry.  


Barbara Mannlein
Tucson, AZ


On Jul 30, 2020, at 5:48 AM, sonialipham368@... wrote:

Ancestry owns Family Tree Maker and no longer supports any problems_,_._,_

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Neil Kominsky
 

Ancestry no longer owns Family Tree Maker.  I has been acquired and is maintained by MacKiev. FTM can, however, still be synced to Ancestry.
 

Neil Kominsky
Brookline, MA

researching Blitstein (Vitebsk), Rothstein (Obruch?), Samson (Iasi), Chalit (Odessa), Kominsky (Aleksandriya, Ukraine), Medvedovsky (Nikolaev, Ukraine), Frank (Altenschoenbach, Lower Franconia), Rosenbaum (Kunreuth, Bavaria), Pentlarz/ Pentlarge (Hostacov, Bohemia), Kleemann (Werneck, Bavaria), May (Wolfisheim, Alsace)


Alyssa Freeman
 

Although there are times when I've found incorrect trees, overall I have found My Heritage to be very helpful. 99% of the time the record matches I find are correct. Rarely do I get records from Family Tree (the Mormon site). Most of the records I've found are ones that I would not be able to get for free. Using My Heritage, I've contacted several cousins who did extensive research before me and were able to pass that information along to me. I would have a lot more brick walls than I currently have if it wasn't for them. I've also found a lot of photos of family members and historical information about some well-known ones. My mom and I have been doing this together - she longer than I have - and I find a lot more information that she does. She's always asking me, "Where did you find this?" and most of the time I've found it from records on My Heritage. She uses Ancestry.
 
Alyssa Freeman
Richmond, VA
looking for FAVILUKIS, BOTNIK, DICKERMAN ( all Russia), SUSSMANN (Galicia), FREIMAN (Galicia), KALLNER, FRIEMAN/FURMAN, SHAPIRO, SHOCHER, MERKELL, GORDON, LEVANISKY (all Lithuania), KAPLINKSY, KAHAN/COHEN (Belarus)


Dahn Cukier
 

The language is set by country. France = French, Israel =Hebrew.

This happens with many applications. Help in Google comes up in Hebrew,
but the the help I wanted was "how to set the page to English."

It would be nice if instead of "ivrit" in Hebrew
they showed a flag.

Dani

When you start to read readin,
how do you know the fellow that
wrote the readin,
wrote the readin right?

Festus Hagen
Long Branch Saloon
Dodge City, Kansas
(Gunsmoke)


On Thursday, July 30, 2020, 04:01:20 PM GMT+3, <sonialipham368@...> wrote:


Check your settings as my subscription has never switched from English to anything else


Eva Lawrence
 

The basic difference between  Ancestry and MH appears to be that Ancestry provides  vital records,and a search engine to locate them and then you attach these to your tree, The information on MH and its other site, Geni is user-generated, so there can be interesting family information and photos. On the other hand,  BMD information and relationships  can often be either wishful thinking or very vague, . MH consists of private sites, with a primary owner, while Geni, as someone pointed out, has only a single tree, a collaborative effort..  Geni now has people working hard to iron out   the discrepancies which are bound to occur.
Until quite recently, Ancestry concentrated far more on records than on personal trees and I think that that's what they do best.  In contrast they give  very imprecise information to users of their DNA tests compared to other companies,  relying on their large user-base to give them an advantage.   
,MH  has a lively community of people looking for ancestors in Poland, Russia and Eastern Europe generally. My current experience of Ancestry is confined to the UK, where they provide census records, parish records and directories but only indexes for civil BMD records (cheapest from the General Record Office). but FMP has  a much  better search engine for British records. 
In the past.Ancestry,com have not been  helpful for German ancestors, where there is no substitute for Famlysearch  microfilms,  many now online.. 
I'd always advise people to keep a personal tree, with images of original records on their  own computer, to avoid being tied for ever to one subscription site. Your research may move in an unexpected direction, your needs (and income) may change and  in any case it's worth trying several sites to see what they are offering.
Once you've registered, all the sites send you hints and marketing emails,. How useful they are depends on what stage you are in your research.

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Eva Lawrence
St Albans, UK.


Cindy g
 

You may wish to check with your local library as many libraries subscribe to Newspapers.com. You can then access the site for free through the library. You do not have to be at the library to do this. There are many other sites that require paid membership, but can be accessed through you local library.  


Karen Lukeman
 

I believe that more Israelis use MyHeritage for family trees. A couple of years ago, I was able to find a branch of cousins which was amazing....my sister then visited them when she went to Israel. AND, last year, someone from Israel found me.... a descendant of my great-grandfather! I ended up learning that after my great-grandmother passed away young after having 4 children, my great-grandfather remarried and had many more children. So if you follow this, my grandmother had a lot of half-siblings that my cousins, my one surviving uncle and I never knew of. 

This year, I ended up getting a multi-year full contract with MyHeritage which reduced the "yearly" fee to make it worthwhile. Because of this, I started listening to several of the webinars via Facebook and other (Ask the Expert) so I am learning to take advantage of all that MyHeritage has to offer....it is a lot more than I originally thought. 

All the best in whatever path you choose. 
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Karen Calmon Lukeman
KALMANOWITZ (Lyubcha and towns near Grodno, Vilna and Minsk)
GOLDSMITH (Bakshty and Ivje)
NASSER (Damascus)
BENBAJI (Damascus)
BALLAS (Damascus)


Julia Trainor
 

Yes MyHeritage has some great benefits!

MyHeritage hosts small trees free of charge, so it has family trees that are not on other sites.  I have found DNA matches on AncestryDNA but the trees are on MyHeritage.  MyHeritage can be a gold mine.   I recently found my (non-Jewish) great great grandmother on a MyHeritage tree.   She had left her family and gone to live with another man a long way away.   She used his name for the rest of her life, and her death was registered under that name.   The MyHeritage tree indexed her under her assumed name, her maiden name and her married name.   This indexing retrieves large numbers of trees, but I scanned hundreds of trees and she jumped out from the screen!   There is no other way I would have found her.

Another advantage of MyHeritage is its ownership of Legacy software, which I use on my own computer.   I get MyHeritage hints in Legacy, which is interesting and useful.

I like the fact that MyHeritage owns Geni.com and I think I will transfer my tree to Geni when I am older, so that it will be freely available in the public domain and indexed by Google for any descendants to find their roots in the future.  

It is possible to adopt a strategic approach:  Subscribe to a site for a year and do some intensive research on that site.

Best wishes for your  research
Julia Trainor
Canberra, Australia
Searching Jewish ancestors from Austrian Czech Lands:  AUSPITZER, DEUTSCH, FESSLER, GLESINGER, GOTTLIEB, SCHMIDL, WEINGARTEN


Eva Lawrence
 

This is a really  valid point. There is no need to be tied to one site or the other if you keep your own records on your computer. The difference between the sites has always been that MH  offers primarily user-generated information, while Ancestry has provided a search engine based on indexed primary records, but now each of the sites is  trying to enter the other's field.. Geni, too, consists of user-generated records, but they are moderated,  unlike MH's, because they are (in theory) part of one single tree. Since it was acquired by MH, its benefits are  gradually being withdrawn from non- subscribers.  
I'd say that for someone starting out, Ancestry's record-based approach,  while not as exciting would be a better discipline, but they seem to have abandoned it.  Now their main advantage is their larger set of long-term subscribers and well-known name give a better chance of a DNA match. 
It does depend on what you're looking for, and threads like this one are a real help.
 
Eva Lawrence
St Albans, UK


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Max Heffler
 

I finally have my pending records matches at MyHeritage down to 631, while the number of my pending hints to records at Ancestry is 23,254


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