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Birthplace vs. emigration place vs. port of origin for destination in US? #general

Robin Rosenblum
 

I know the Eastern European birthplace of the ancestors I am
researching (they were a married couple), and I have already found
their names on the ship manifest from England to New York; however, in
reading the husband's naturalization papers (the wife had died
earlier), it indicates that he emigrated from Bremen, Germany. I
don't understand why Bremen is mentioned, rather than the port in
England. My only guess is that a ship from Bremen was considered the
first "leg" of the journey from Liverpool to NY. I have tried to find
documentation of the couple's trip from Bremen to England, but with no
luck.

I'd like some guidance as to why Bremen would be listed as the place
from which they emigrated, and on where to look for documentation of
their travel from Bremen to England. FYI, their journey from
Liverpool to NY took place in 1904.

Thank you for any insights. This is part of a surprise gift for my
mother's birthday, and we are hoping to find answers to gaps in the
research she conducted over the years.

Jill Whitehead
 

Dear Robin

There is very little data for shipping from European ports to Britain for this period, as records were either not kept or destroyed.  You may wish to try the UK National Archives website as some info is on there, but it is minimal. 

Jill Whitehead

Michael Hoffman
 

There are no records of passengers arriving in the UK from Bremen. You should access the Bremen Passenger Records for the time frame that you are researching which should found on the Ancestry.com website, this will or should show the UK destination port. If UK the destination Port was Hull on the East Coast of Yorkshire, the immigrant would take a train from Hull to the Port of Liverpool which is on the West Coast of England and then board a ship to NY. 

Michael Hoffman
Borehamwood
HERTS UK  

jbonline1111@...
 

Is it possible that your ancestors may have stayed in Bremen for some time before traveling on to England and America?  Perhaps they needed to earn money for the next leg of their trip?
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Barbara Sloan
Conway, SC

Jonathan Jacobs
 

Personally, I look at it this way.  Of you are flying from New York to LA with a stop in Chicago.  You are not going to say that you came from Chicago.  You're going to say that your departure is New York.  Benin was a HUGE departure point for a lot of people.
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Jonathan Jacobs
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Amateur Genealogist
Cincinnati, Ohio, USA
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Alan Shuchat
 

The U.K. Outward Passenger Lists on Ancestry sometimes show how a passenger leaving the U.K. arrived there. I’ve found this information for someone who left from Libau and then took a ship from Southampton to Canada.
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Alan Shuchat
Newton, MA

SHUKHAT (Talnoe, Simferopol, Sevastopol, Odessa, Balta (Abazovka), Pogrebishche)
VINOKUR (Talnoe), KURIS (Mogilev-Podolskiy, Ataki, Berdichev)
ZILBERMAN (Soroki, Kremenets), BIRNBAUM (Kamenets-Podolskiy)
KITAIGORODSKI (Zvenigorodka)

Victoria Fisch
 

https://www.gjenvick.com/Passengers/Ports/Bremen-PassengerLists.html#axzz4eFy7X2Jh

Alan Shuchat
 

The U.K. Outward Passenger Lists on Ancestry sometimes show how a passenger leaving the U.K. arrived there. I’ve found this information for someone who left from Libau and then took a ship from Southampton to Canada.
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Alan Shuchat
Newton, MA

SHUKHAT (Talnoe, Simferopol, Sevastopol, Odessa, Balta (Abazovka), Pogrebishche)
VINOKUR (Talnoe), KURIS (Mogilev-Podolskiy, Ataki, Berdichev)
ZILBERMAN (Soroki, Kremenets), BIRNBAUM (Kamenets-Podolskiy)
KITAIGORODSKI (Zvenigorodka)

N. Summers
 

On a related note, I found on Ancestry.com there have been errors in the "Record" transcription from scanned documents. For one of my relatives the town Ostrog was listed as the place she lived in before departure but the record listed it as her birthplace. . Good thing I looked at the original document and didn't rely on the transcribed record, as the misinformation would have pushed me in the wrong direction.

Nancy Summers
Maryland USA
FINKELSTEIN; BOOKSTEIN/BUCHSTEIN; KOENIG/SUKENIK; LUSMAN - Radzivillov, Belarus/Ukraine; Ostrog, Belarus/Ukraine
LEAF/LIFSCHITZ; LISS/ALPER - Rechitsa, Motol